Well mt TD wants to spend all the money in the bugdet before the school can take it back so Im thinking I will hit him up for some sound upgrades this year seeing how lighting has gotten intells and a new board in the past two years and might trade up for spots. Anyway I was think the theater lacks low end seeign how we have no sub would 3k be a fair budget for this project? I am thinking a nice PRO quality sub cross over cable and an amp (we have an extra channel but I like the amps to be nice and close to the speakers I would have the cross over right after the effects unit then a cable run to where the sub would be the problems I can think of, Pulling cable our theater is pretty new so the cable runs still have rope in them so this shouldnt be too hard, next would be placement, I fell under the apron would create to much vibration (think crappy system in rusty car) and on either side of the stage would be too directional to the point where I would have to crank the sub so high so the people on the far side could hear it that the people right next to it would have mushy organs, and lastly would it really add that much, right now when I crank the some good old styxs or floyd most people agree that it sounds better with the low end heavly boosted but for musicals it sounds decent except for sound effets like wind, hard to get a nice boomy sound. Mike Also whats a good sub 500 doller cd player and why? If need be cash from the sub can be put towards the player I am tired of the 5 disc change we have right now great for dance shows but horrible for cueing effects because after awhile of being paused it seems to stop spining.