No, I meant what I typed. The connectors say Pyle-National E-Line. An acquaintance has break-ins and -outs but no multi. On a slightly different topic, didn't Production Arts Lighting use the 37 pin Pyle-National Star-Line in something like a 17 circuit configuration at one point? I seem to remember seeing a "Stage Box" with 17 flush mount 2P&G connectors on it on one corporate show around 1987.