So, today was the last day of our musical, and in the precious spare time before the show I got to talking with the show's producer (really the business director) and the stage crew leader. I have known the producer about six years now. We were talking about rigging and flying things, started with curtains and ended up moving to set pieces. We do not have a fly system. What shocked me is that they both seemed to think it was ok to go to the hardware store, pick up some bolts, some pulleys, and some rope/airplane wire and use the trial and error method to get it right. Of course, I brought up the fact that nobody is qualified to do that type of thing here. No one. I just got the response, "Trial and Error is how things have been invented forever. I don't see what's wrong with it." To which I replied, "When you put things in the air, they can fall; when they fall, people will get hurt and most likely die." The response: "Well, we'd do it safely, we wouldn't try to do too much." I pointed out that our ceiling in our Auditorium was not designed to do it, and I was met with the response that "When the stage was redone [the stage area used to be a 300-seat chapel with a gymnasium behind the seats, remodeled in 1970] the celing was dropped and extra supports were put in for the lights, so the celing should support a lot of weight." :shock: If I can dig up some pictures of what this group (called Forum) puts together for set pieces, you would see that everything is done half fast and would not be "up to snuff" in a real theatre. :neutral: How can I drill into these people that unless you're qualified, DON'T DO IT!?!? Or am I just over reacting? I don't think I am. No matter what I say, he still seems to think it would be ok to try.