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Nomad for Education set up

Discussion in 'Lighting and Electrics' started by jgels, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. jgels

    jgels Member

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    Hi all,
    I have been running shows off of an ETC Express 24/48 for the past 7 years (that's right we upgraded from a leprecon 624 to outdated technology)

    As much as I would love to get an element or ion, it's just not in the budget.

    We have a fairly small rig. 16 channels on 4 electrics above the stage. 4 hangable dimmers. and then 5 Philips Colorblaze 72s (generously testers from a parent who worked for them)

    Part of the reason for wanting to upgrade is the huge disadvantage my students find themselves in when we go to schools during festivals with ions and we have 60 cues to program but are not familiar enough with the system to do it quickly.

    An appreciative parent is offering to help pay for a more modest set up. I have tried to do some research using this forum and other places but wanted to make sure before I spent the money that this looks like a set up that would actually work together the way I wanted to.

    ETC Nomad for Education (key and dongle)

    MINISFORUM Fanless Silent Windows 10 Home (64-bit) Mini PC 4GB DDR3L RAM, 32GB eMMC, Ultra HD 4K Intel Quad Core CPU up to 1.92GHz, 2W SDP, 1000M LAN, Dual Band WiFi, BT 4.0, HDMI&VGA, 3 USB Ports

    X-keys Programmable Keypads and Keyboards (60 Key, XK-60)

    Eos key button overlay for x-keys

    Korg Nanokontroller 2 x2 to get some sliders involved (I think there is a program that will let them communicate with nomad) I assume there is no way of using my old express's faders for the system.

    ASUS 15.6" 1366x768 HDMI VGA 10-point Touch Eye Care Screen LCD Monitor (VT168H) x2

    Thanks all
     
  2. danTt

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    - I wouldn't buy 1366x768 screens at this point regardless of how cheap they are. Eos reccomends 1280x1024 min, and the vertical resolution is important. Even if you buy one 1920x1080 touch screen + reuse one of your current express monitors, having a decent primary screen is going to be huge.

    - I'd look at a NuC/similar instead of the PC you've specced. Fanless is cool, but I'd trust an SSD or HDD over an SD card any day for storage. Also, the only google result I found for this suggests it doesn't support touchscreen monitors (who knows why..)

    It depends on your usage, but I find learning+using the keyboard shortcuts on a standard 102key keyboard to be more effecient for most programming than learning the layout of an xkeys.

    The program you're looking for to sync/respond to faders is called "luminosus"
     
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    Thanks. I think I will go with these guys for monitors then
    Planar PXL2230MW 22-Inch 16:9 1080p Touchscreen LCD Monitor

    Maybe I just don't know enough about these things but is there a way to tell if a computer will support touch screens? What am I looking for?
     
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    Do you have a link to this? Win 10 shouldn't care too much, the drivers are pretty universal for touchscreens nowadays. I'd be concerned about the 32GB of storage. That doesn't leave a whole lot of room left after Windows is installed.

    You might also want to take a look into lxkey http://www.lxkey.co.uk/ It's similar in concept to the X-keys, but it's already laid out and setup for you. Note: I've never used one, but I see it recommended often.
     
  5. JChenault

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    A suggestion

    Download nomad and play with it using a standard keyboard. I had to do some off line work for an Ion and discovered that once I figured out what keys mapped to what function I can program faster with a qwerty keyboard than the console. IMHO If you are a touch typist the learning curve is pretty quick

    Re touch screens. I have them for the ion but rarely use them. YMMV.
     
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    Nomad works pretty well on a Dell 13" laptop with touch screen. Done. Maybe if moving back and forth with desks, add the EOS Programming Wing in the future.
     
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    Yeah. It's the first result if you google it.

    http://laptopmanic.com/minisforum-f...an-dual-band-wifi-bt-4-0-hdmivga-3-usb-ports/

    "Note:
    When you are going to upgrade the Windows, please leave at least 16GB free space on C disk.
    When the operation system crashes, please do not unplug the power adapter directly, just press the reset jack, the device will restart automatically.
    It doesn’t support touchscreen monitor."

    As I said, I have no idea why or if it's true. I just know that the first google result says it doesn't.
     
  8. jgels

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    Thanks all. I think I am gonna go with a base laptop and it will also be one of my touch screens

    Ok so it looks like this guy may do the trick. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077SKWTXL/?tag=controlbooth-20 except it doesn't seem to have an ethernet adapter. It is proving hard to find a touchscreen laptop with ethernet since the trend is to slim them down which means killing larger ports like that
     
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    If you want a laptop, you might need to look at a docking adaptor. For example the Microsoft surface has a docking station that has an Ethernet adaptor.
     
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    lots of USB to ethernet adapters out there for under $15
     

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