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Parents fight for fly loft

Discussion in 'Stage Management and Facility Operations' started by ruinexplorer, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. ruinexplorer

    ruinexplorer Minion CB Mods Premium Member Fight Leukemia

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    Fascinating. Too bad the utilization - turn around - is greatly helped by the rigging. At $120m, its not much.

    I loved the line about all the awful spaces, and the ignorance of the superintendent that somehow technology can compensate for no fly loft. I face this stuff on every project.

    Great find!
     
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    Yeah, cause that “Broadway technology” will sure be a lot cheaper than building a fly loft. I mean what are they gonna do, have Hudson install an automation package every time they do Grease?
     
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    That's my Home TOWN! sorta. Even a partial height Fly, is better then Nothing. I'm not saying you have to fly in/out 24' high drops completely out of sight, but being able to bring in a border or linesets for hanging set pieces/drapers/Lighting is a must.
     
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    Have the superintendent come in and participate with students doing a light hang using only ladders on a dead hung system, and he’ll change his mind about the safety issue.
     
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    Yes but you don't need the fly loft to raise and lower lighting battens. Its about losing a drop or tall piece of scenery or - more important - changing over from a band concert to a play overnight or between afternoon and evening.
     
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    Fair enough, but I’d bet dollars to donuts that if they’re not putting in a fly system, they’re also not putting in rigging for the lighting battens.
     
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    Very possible, but motorizing 4 or 5 electrics is probably less than $100,000, while the full fly is on the order of a million. The comeback from the admin was “the fly is not possible due to the design of the building, but technological solutions may be found to compensate for the loss of the fly.” and roll drops were mentioned. It is a $120m project, so there is probably $6m contingency - funds not spent before the project begins construction. And public pressure can shake a few buck loose. (Is that kind of the reverse of campaign contributions for quid pro quo?)

    But I appreciate your cynicism. I lose the motorized electrics as nearly as often as not. (But they get the electric hoist to store the wrestling mat.)
     
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    I do appreciate the concerns over safety, but I believe that since that is understood at the get go, they should be able to take some appropriate steps. In any case, I believe that if you are going to plan anything with technology (be it traditional or modern), you need to design with the intention of maintenance and service life. How well can the school maintain either system?
     
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    Compared to the cheerleader squad, i think the student techies are pretty safe.
     
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    That's my reply when questioned about the safety of having kids operate flies. How many football kids visited the ER last year vs. how many tech kids?
     
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    Bill,

    Do you remember James Hull Miller stages? They'd be perfect for this superintendent that knows there must be some tech out there that will compensate for rigging. UGGGGG.

    T
     
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    Unfortunately, many. And since the users change and the book didn't always get passed down, the users end up fighting with the stage. The center ceiling piece was cut down and dropped (literally) on the stage deck. He then called maintenance and said "it fell".
     
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    "I swear it was like that when I got here!"
     
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    Goes along with the td who accidently spilled black paint all over the entire bright white proscenium.
     
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    Sometimes ya just gotta take matters in your own hands and ask for forgiveness later...

    Sometimes.
     
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    "the fly is not possible due to the design of the building"

    Um, they are still *designing the building*, aren't they?
     
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    Compared to what I here for excuses and rational daily, this one's no so incredible. Incredible still and BS, but not as outlandish as a lot.
     

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