# Quality DMX Cable? (and Pin Connectors)

#### gafftaper

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Putting together the sealed bid specifications for my lighting package. What brands should I consider "acceptable" for DMX and Scroller Cable?

Lex is the only one I know for sure. Who else?

OH!! Also what brands should I list as acceptable for Cheeseborroughs so I don't end up with a bunch chinese stuff?

OH OH... what about GSP Connectors... Anything I should specify there besides clear cover?

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Putting together the sealed bid specifications for my lighting package. What brands should I consider "acceptable" for DMX and Scroller Cable?
Lex is the only one I know for sure. Who else?
Belden makes some great cable, cant rememeber the DMX cable off the top of my head. Tourflex is also some really rugged stuff.

#### Van

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Belden, and I can't remember the exact number, is usually THE cable spec'd in the DMX protocol. I beleive it used to be Belden 5143 but don't quote me.
http://www.belden.com/pdfs/Techpprs/DMX-512.pdf
Here's an interesting link to the Belden website. has tables for suggested belden DMX cables as well as a discussion on the "proper" Belden ethernet cable to use.

clamps, http://www.clampsunlimited.net/products.htm#Double-Right_Angle_Coupler I can't guarantee that their not from china, but, all their clamps are rated and you can D/L the testing certificates from the website.

GSP's, I don't know about everyone else, but I hate the new "ferrule" type. I've had really bad experiences with this type of connector. I'd much rather be forced to install crimp connectors, than run the risk of shearing all wire strands with the ferrule getting crimped to hard.

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#### gafftaper

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GSP's, I don't know about everyone else, but I hate the new "ferrule" type. I've had really bad experiences with this type of connector. I'd much rather be forced to install crimp connectors, than run the risk of shearing all wire strands with the ferrule getting crimped to hard.
Hmm... now I'm glad I asked. I was just wondering what brand to specify... I know Union Connector but that's it. Anyway, I see I have the option of "pressure plate" or "Crimp Lug"... I didn't know I had an option. I've always used the one where you crimp on a spade connector and screw it down... I guess that's "pressure plate". Am I right? Does anybody think the "crimp lug" style is a good idea?

#### Logos

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I am so glad that we really only have one choice to make in this country. Do we buy Clipsal or the cheap knock off.

#### gafftaper

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I am so glad that we really only have one choice to make in this country. Do we buy Clipsal or the cheap knock off.

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#### Van

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I've bought and installed at least 6 brands/types of GSP connectors and hands down the best (and easiest to install) were the BATES connectors. They offer clear tops, and have the easiest method of attaching the wires.

Unlike the Union connectors where you have to crimp the wire into a spade or ring connector first, and then balance the little screw and lock washer on top (Ugh!!), the Bates allow you to slide a little nickel sleave over the wire, and just insert it into the backs of the pin, and you tighten the little screw down onto it to secure it in place. They are SOOOOOO easy to use.

Once you buy BATES, you'll never go back. Spend the \$5 and try one to see.
Those are exactly what I've been talking about! I can see them being useful, speedy even, but you have to drive home the idea that Over tightening the screw results in carnage.

#### gafftaper

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Hmm... I think maybe I better just stay with the product I know. It takes a while to crimp on those extra spades but you know it's all done really well.