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Discussion in 'Lighting and Electrics' started by David Ashton, Feb 18, 2008.
Are Martin the only makers of "studio quiet" movers or are there cheaper alternatives?
Martin. Depending on the show and the rig, you might be able to use a less expensive product if you just keep the pan and tilt movements slow and slow the fan speed down. Won't be a perfect solution, but nothing is ever perfact.
ETC Revolution are relatively quiet fixtures. I don't know if they compare to the "studio quiet" level of the Martin TW1, but let me tell you, the Mac2K is not a quiet fixture, my Elation fixtures run quieter than that. Most of the time the most noise comes from the fans in the fixture, many fixtures have variable or automatic fan speeds which help a lot.
bit noticeable unless you slow down the movement.
mark consistently. If you set a specific spot, then go to another cue, and return to the first, it will be off a little. Console doesn't seem to matter. Not a fixture I would use if I could avoid it. And not very bright, either.
What attributes/duties are you wishing these prospective movers to do?
Since there are so many features anymore, what can you absolutely NOT live without?
Just asking for a little more details, that's all.....
chase - could you deal with not having gobo changing ability, motorized zoom, motorize focus, and iris control? Because in that case, you could use an I-Cue or a Right Arm with source four/shakespeare/Strand SL a scroller (only works with right arm, not i-cue) or SeaChanger.
mark. The logic in the studio spot 250 is the same as the studio beam. The components in a studio spot (minus the logic board itself) is the same as the studio spot 250. I have had problems with ETC revolutions hitting their spot (ETC should stay with making conventional lights). Also studio spot 575's and studio colors are fanless and they are quiet. The studio spot 575 cmy's are noiser than the regular studio spots, due to the color mixing system, yet they are quiet. Studio beams do have fans in the fixture, same with the studio spot 250's and studio color 250's.
venue which has nearly all one night stands, so for music/dance they want full ML function but for theatre/conference events they just want focusable spots which are quiet.
Yes, there are other moving lights on the market that may work just fine but bear in mind the reliability factor.
My advice, stay as far away from Chauvet movers as possible. I had to send in a Q-Spot 575 in four times before it finally worked properly. As soon as I got it back, one of the Q-Washes that the theatre I work for owns stopped tilting. Ergo, stay away from them.
wagon here. In a theatre I worked at for years we had Techno Beam 575's and Studio Spot 575's. The Techno's were old but they worked fine and were quiet even if put on the box's. The Studio's were a dream to work with and I never noticed any noise from them really. Also with the 575 variety I never had a problem with the light not being bright enough i had full washes up and still if I wanted to see the light from the 575's it was there. One word to the wise though make sure you terminate the line. Maybe it was just the fixtures I had but if I even thought of not terminating the line the fixtures (especially the Techno's) started to twitch like someone that just drank 14 cups of coffee.
Martin who have good back up and the HES price range looks way over the available budget, but thanks for your replies.
I'm not so sure about that Derek. I have one borrowed for the week just behind my office, and the three fans certainly remind me the unit is on... Granted, it's a 2,000 Watt lamp and needs plenty of air for cooling- but it's far from quiet. (In my opinion, that is...)
Believe it or not, those Techno Beams were only 250W fixtures. Their brightness is proof positive of the optical quality HES is known for.
See for yourself- http://technobeamlamp.com/
I meant when compared to a Syncrolite!
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