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selling liquid nitrogen under the age of 16

Discussion in 'New Member Board' started by varietyler, Apr 29, 2019.

  1. GreyWyvern

    GreyWyvern Apollo Staff

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    No. You have to physically type that in. Why did you type Maryland if you live in Utah?!
     
  2. varietyler

    varietyler Member

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    i did not i just put in my adress dume idea tho
     
  3. GreyWyvern

    GreyWyvern Apollo Staff

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    I have no idea what that says. Try some capital letters and punctuation. Maybe school isn't your thing after all. Is that why you are trying to come up with a way to make money?
     
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  4. varietyler

    varietyler Member

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    i am home Schooled so i have plentey of time to do both
     
  5. sk8rsdad

    sk8rsdad Well-Known Member Premium Member Fight Leukemia

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    We teach the cubs to make ice cream in a baggie with ice and salt as the coolant.
     
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  6. Amiers

    Amiers Renting to Corporate One Fixture at a Time.

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    Living in Utah he might have better luck doing mass batches of rock salt ice cream versus LN ice cream. Just go hit up the lake lol.
     
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    John D Rockefeller had a lot of responsibility at a young age it was one of the reasons he was rich
     
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    lol i manly live on the opset side of the state 4hours away
     
  9. RonHebbard

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    @varietyler Idle curiosity: Do you foresee manufacturing and selling in small thermos bottle-sized quantities or are you imagining a fleet of liquid nitro transports rolling around Maryland? If Maryland is hog farming country there may be a market for your product, especially if you can deliver to their doors on a weekly basis.
    Toodleoo!
    Ron Hebbard
     
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    small containers sound like a good idea and i do not now about pigs
     
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    i just looked there is one or 2 farms that have pigs
     
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  12. RonHebbard

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    @Amiers Possibly our OP's planning on manufacturing his own gear; perhaps he has a bicycle pump, a thermos and the arms of Popeye. Who knows?
    (Someday I'll regal you with the tale of how I set my Mom's kitchen on fire. I was about 9 in grade four. Two teachers lined up two classes and walked us five or six blocks to our local library where we were supposed to choose up to three books from the ground floor childrens' section. We did this perhaps every couple of months. One visit I found a whole new world of more interesting books up on the library's second floor; I found a book on rocketry, rejoined my classmates and cheerfully checked out a book on Von Braun containing basic diagrammatic illustrations of his theories for constructing a simple rocket. A vacuum booster tank ex of my grandmother's 1936 Essex looked to me a lot like a pressure tank for combining oxygen and liquid fuel. Two balloons, one for naptha from my Dad's Coleman camping stove, the other inflated with air, looked a lot like pressurized liquid rocket fuel and pressurized oxygen to me. I got home from school one day, my Mom was in the kitchen with her back towards me at her sink making dinner for my Dad who was expected home shortly. I was sitting on the linoleum floor behind my Mom playing with my home made rocket. I was using one of my train transformers to power an old wooden cased vibrator equipped ignition coil ex of a model A or T, arcing the transformer's secondary in front of the Esex's vacuum tank's output port attempting to ignite my rocket. Imagine my Mom's startled reaction when my rocket shot a stream of naptha across the kitchen, between her legs, and splattered on the front of a cupboard door leaving a trail of flaming naptha across the linoleum behind her. Naptha burns very clean leaving a line of charred linoleum with only the palest of blue flames visible. My Mom volun-told my Dad to lock his naptha on a much higher shelf and my fourth grade teacher was instructed to keep a closer eye on me during future field trips to the library.) @GreyWyvern how'd you like that one??
    Toodleoo!
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  13. ruinexplorer

    ruinexplorer Sherpa CB Mods Premium Member Fight Leukemia

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    FYI, I educated my three children at home. My son got on the Dean's List following his first semester in university. Home education offers a certain amount of freedom in learning opportunities. That being said, there are a lot of challenges as well.

    Taking initiative to opening your own business is admiral. Before investing in this or any other business venture, it would be best if you study up on what it takes to run a business. Contact your small business administration. They likely offer workshops.
     
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    @varietyler Utah ; that explains a lot. @GreyWyvern Have you a better understanding now? @Amiers , you??
    Toodleoo!
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    MNicolai Well-Known Member Fight Leukemia

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    Dewars turn into bombs if you don't use them correctly. A leak in a low-lying or enclosed environment will displace the oxygen and suffocate you or your family. I know chemical engineers with master's degrees in engineering who have made mistakes in the lab that were nearly fatal, including accidentally making cyanide gas which was a byproduct of an otherwise benign mixture they were preparing.

    Aside from warning you about the pipe bomb risk, there really is almost no market potential in this. The ice cream guy won't buy from you, and neither will your local hospital. They don't want the legal liability and unreliability of dealing with an individual when it's cheaper, safer, and on a routine weekly delivery schedule to call up their local chemical supplier. Someone fails to make a delivery or something goes wrong? There's money on the other side of the contract they sic their lawyers after if need be. Also worth mentioning is that most of the businesses that need LN also need other chemicals and medical gasses and are going to buy from a one-stop shop.

    I don't want to discourage you as a matter of form, but everything you've said indicates you have no idea what you're getting into and you don't understand the problem you would be trying to solve with your own business.

    In case you want a better glimpse into just the safety precautions required, including why you shouldn't ever transport LN in your own car or keep a stockpile in your basement, because a small leak will suffocate you:

    · On vaporization LN2 expands by a factor of 700; one liter of liquid nitrogen becomes 24.6 cubic feet of nitrogen gas. This can cause an explosion of a sealed container. The release of nitrogen can also displace oxygen in a room and cause asphyxiation. Nitrogen does not have good warning properties. You may feel light headed or simply pass out without any warning.
     
  16. TimMc

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    Then here's my suggestion, no puns will be harmed....

    There is a program that was/may still be called SCORE - Service Corps of Retired Executives. Its purpose is to help people with no/little/insufficient business experience with researching markets, production, writing business plans, financing, etc. You might be a bit younger than most of their clients but SCORE or another entrepreneurship program can be a vast help in focusing on what it will take to make your idea into a plan, and hopefully into a reality.

    And yeah, not sure why you picked this forum as a place to express your interest in such products and services, but here you are.... My final comment - some things are expensive because of market factors - location, demand, supply - and others are expensive more because the product is difficult to make or involves rare or pricey ingredients/precursors, extensive manufacturing plant required, cost of compliance with health & safety regulations, etc. All of these factors need to be explored no matter what product or service you might decide to pursue.

    Good luck.

    Tim Mc
     
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    May I also suggest a couple more things-

    Insulting people on a public forum isn't nice and presents an immediate negative impression of you and your proposals. If you are home schooled I think you need to discuss remedial spelling courses and work on writing complete sentences using full words (i.e. concentrate on sentence structure and grammar) with your teaching parent. While this may not seem important to you, these skills are crucial in business.
     
  18. varietyler

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    ok I am working on spelling and note I was insulting my self saying it was a bad idea to put in my address
     
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  19. RonHebbard

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    @varietyler How's your liquid nitro' business proceeding?
    EDIT: @TNasty Are you playing along at home??
    Toodleoo!
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  20. venuetech

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    At some point you may need to get various permits for storage and vessel inspection. Not to mention proper insurance for sail and storage of this liquified gas. So work that into the bp.
     
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