Shure SLX 4 Receiver Flashing and Outputting Distorted Signal

Discussion in 'Sound, Music, and Intercom' started by Dane Boulton, Feb 4, 2015.

  1. Dane Boulton

    Dane Boulton Member

    Messages:
    55
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Australia
    Hey Guys 2 out of 3 of my SLX 4 (P4 Band) Receivers have started flashing and outputting distorted signal as soon as the mic they are paired to is turned on they all run through a Shure UA844SWB RF Distributor to get there signal from the dimmer room of my theatre to two antenans mounted on the stage.

    So I just went in after the long holidays to start working and two of the receivers are flashing and the VU meter is going up and down up and down as shown in the video I have embedded. I have no Idea what caused this. It could have been caused by a user messing with something or something that happened over the holidays while no one was here I have no idea.

    As soon as an SLX transmitter is turned on the receivers display starts flashing and if I try and output the sound from the desk I just get a very ugly distorted choppy sound through.

    There are no Incompatiable or FULL error messages on the TX or RX so I am really lost for what to do.
    I have tried different channels resetting the units reseting the RF distro and nothing is working

    I really need these two receivers working as they are the main workhorse mics in our space and as the school year kicks off they are going to get used heaps.

    Cheers,
    Dane



     
  2. Chris15

    Chris15 CBMod CB Mods Premium Member Departed Member

    Messages:
    4,154
    Likes Received:
    443
    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    Your P4s are illegal to use as of Jan 1, because of the digital dividend.
    You will need to have the school replace them with something that runs below 694 MHz

    btw, the ACMA fines for operating an illegal tranmitter are north of 50k per transmitter ;)
     
  3. Dane Boulton

    Dane Boulton Member

    Messages:
    55
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Australia
    Thank You so much for informing me!
    I thought that this was not until april this is a big mistake on my part.

    I now have the pleasant task of replacing around 12 SLX receivers and about 20 Handheld Beta 58's and 10 Beltpacks
    I am pretty annoyed about this whole thing as that is a huge amount of money to have to spend so some quick questions hopefully you can help me.

    Are the SLX Transmitters Universal?..... So If I go out and by some SLX receivers still within the legal range can I start using them straight away with my old transmitters?

    Are you able to some how re chip or reband the receivers to within the legal range?

    If there is really no way at all to stick to the SLX system can I make any money out of my old gear?
    And what is a good transmitter/receiver combo to replace my old SLX and I kind of really need them to work with the Shure RF Distribution

    Cheers,
    Hope someone here can answer
     
  4. themuzicman

    themuzicman Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    914
    Likes Received:
    234
    Occupation:
    Audio Engineer
    Location:
    On Tour
    Why do you have almost twice the number of handhelds as receivers? That's a confusing number -- I could understand doubling up bodypacks and HH on receivers just in case you have an act that wants all bodypack or all handheld, but I don't quite get the large amount of handhelds in relation to receivers

    Not at all. The SLX are fixed frequency transmitters and receivers, they are not freely tunable so when the screen says 1-1, that's the same for both the transmitter and receiver and can't be fixed.

    It's not worth the cost with the SLX, even if you found a place to re-chip

    sell to a location where they are legal to use

    sennheiser evolution series
     
  5. Edrick

    Edrick Well-Known Member Premium Member

    Messages:
    1,315
    Likes Received:
    35
    Location:
    Boston, MA
    These are for your school correct? Who's the faculty member in charge? Unfortunately with that amount of equipment its probably going to take some bidding and being done by a contractor. I hope they listen to you and don't just try to brush it under the carpet. Best of luck!

    How old is the current system?
     
  6. Dane Boulton

    Dane Boulton Member

    Messages:
    55
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Australia
    Thanks so much for all your help guys!

    I'm happy to say that the entire school is in the process of being fitted with Senheiser EW100 G3 systems.
    These seem to be a pretty similar level in quality to the SLX and have the top of the line capsule fitted to them.
    I also an very excited to get the receivers networked and running with senheisers wireless manager
    And can't wait to start running shows with them.
    As for the SlX we are not sure at the momment. It will be a shame to see the many pieces of fantastic workhorse high quality equiptment get trashed or sold well below their value all because of the digital dividend.
    Again thanks for your help I'll let you guys known how the Senheisers go
    Cheers
     
  7. Chris15

    Chris15 CBMod CB Mods Premium Member Departed Member

    Messages:
    4,154
    Likes Received:
    443
    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    Sorry mate, but if you're getting ew100G3s you won't be networking them.
    You need ew300 G3 or ew500 G3 to get ethernet...
     
  8. Dane Boulton

    Dane Boulton Member

    Messages:
    55
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Australia
    Ah okay must have misread something. We never had it with the SLX so I'm sure we can live without it. Is this system any good in your knowledge/opinion?
    Cheers Again
     
  9. Chris15

    Chris15 CBMod CB Mods Premium Member Departed Member

    Messages:
    4,154
    Likes Received:
    443
    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    There are a pair of them sitting in the rack at my church.
    There are a good number of the ew100s and ew300s littered across the UTS campus in the city.

    So long as you aren't trying to push them beyond their limits in terms of number of systems in a given bandwidth, you'll be fine.
    The metal handhelds seem to wear reasonably well, the power switches will catch out most teachers though...
     
  10. Dane Boulton

    Dane Boulton Member

    Messages:
    55
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Australia
    Okay sounds good
    Great to have another person from Sydney on here especially one who uses the same kit. Thanks so much for your help. I was quite impressed with the quality when I first held them. I guess I will have to see how they go soon
     
  11. StradivariusBone

    StradivariusBone Custom Title Fight Leukemia

    Messages:
    1,175
    Likes Received:
    538
    Occupation:
    Facility Manager/TD
    Location:
    Space Coast, FL
    I have a an SLX4 doing the same thing as OP. It's partner was working, but after being left on for a while now clips anytime someone talks into the mic. The first one seems like a power issue. It only freaks out when a mic is on its freq. Otherwise the display is just dim. The second was working fine, but now acts like its gain is way too high. This was the only thread that had anything close that I could find.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/bZcB4DTHN5AVq47j6
     
    RonHebbard likes this.
  12. mbenonis

    mbenonis Wireless Guy Administrator Premium Member

    Messages:
    1,447
    Likes Received:
    165
    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    Chicago, IL
    I would suggest contacting Shure Applications Engineering at www.shure.com/contact or (312) 736-6006.
     
    RonHebbard and StradivariusBone like this.
  13. StradivariusBone

    StradivariusBone Custom Title Fight Leukemia

    Messages:
    1,175
    Likes Received:
    538
    Occupation:
    Facility Manager/TD
    Location:
    Space Coast, FL
    Yeah, that was my next stop. Google-Fu led me here, but I also was told just after I posted that they are not planning to keep the SLXs so it might have been for naught. I was just curious if OP found out what caused his particular issue.
     
    RonHebbard likes this.
  14. FMEng

    FMEng Well-Known Member Fight Leukemia

    Messages:
    2,041
    Likes Received:
    986
    Location:
    Tacoma, WA
    My first suspicion would be a dying external power supply (aka wall wart or line lump). I'll bet that the voltage isn't what it is supposed to be under load.
     
  15. StradivariusBone

    StradivariusBone Custom Title Fight Leukemia

    Messages:
    1,175
    Likes Received:
    538
    Occupation:
    Facility Manager/TD
    Location:
    Space Coast, FL
    I had an audio technica that acted like that, I was thinking that was the case with the one that started freaking out as soon as it tried to connect, but the other one was odd. It worked fine for about 15 minutes and then started having issues.
     
  16. DrewE

    DrewE Active Member

    Messages:
    93
    Likes Received:
    138
    Location:
    Vermont
    Either a dying power supply or, closely related, a dried up/dying electrolytic power supply filter capacitor somewhere, possibly in the receiver box itself. Not infrequently you (or at least someone moderately adept at electronic troubleshooting) can spot such capacitors based on their having bulged out, leaked, or otherwise showing signs of trauma. Sometimes an ESR and capacitance meter is needed. Sometimes it's best to just replace them as a matter of course in hopes of fixing or preventing problems....
     
  17. FMEng

    FMEng Well-Known Member Fight Leukemia

    Messages:
    2,041
    Likes Received:
    986
    Location:
    Tacoma, WA
    Over the years, I haven't had that much luck find bad caps from physical signs. The ones that fail are most often sitting next to heat sinks. That's easy to spot.
     
    RonHebbard likes this.
  18. StradivariusBone

    StradivariusBone Custom Title Fight Leukemia

    Messages:
    1,175
    Likes Received:
    538
    Occupation:
    Facility Manager/TD
    Location:
    Space Coast, FL
    I've had hit or miss luck with bad caps. I had a monitor go once and decided to just get one of those "cap kits" you can find on eBay where you just buy a bag instead of sourcing each cap individually. Turns out the two that failed were ceramic disc smoothing caps on the high voltage output and were the only two not included in that bag and they looked fine visually. Oh well.
     
    RonHebbard likes this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice