What's your opinion on these fixtures from altman, and is there anything better for that much money or less? I'm looking for very cheap ellipsoidals for sidelights, because I need to shape the beam (keep it off the cyc and out of the house area). The cost of a fully outfitted fresnel or PAR w/barndoor and lamp is about the same as a rigged up 3.5Q. I would like to buy these used, but I don't know where to get them for REAL cheap. My school knows that it's equipment is THIRTY YEARS OLD, but it really doesn't care. The only thing that's been upgraded is the control, and half of the old-style twist lock connectors and their fixture counterparts were changed out for new ones, but not the other half. I need sidelighting. Mainly for dance concerts. And all of the rest of our inventory is completely used up, and is already drawn very, very thin. Rental is out of the picture, because it would cost too much just for temporary usage of about a two months a year. New-style twist lock connections are required. Any and all input is welcome.