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Stadium Sound Design

Discussion in 'Sound, Music, and Intercom' started by Oobleck1441, Mar 29, 2008.

  1. Oobleck1441

    Oobleck1441 Member

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    Hello all,
    I finally got my foot in the door to be able to choose, set-up, adn run the sound in our new sports arena at the school I work for. I wouldn't say I have an open end budget, but I have quite a bit to work with.

    Getting to the point. Are there any new gadgets or equipment anyone has heard about or used!?!? I really want to get my hands on some new equipment and use it.

    Main sound, but Im open for video too.

    Thanks a bunch, i want to have as much fun with this as I can!
     
  2. Eboy87

    Eboy87 Well-Known Member

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    First, the requisite questions:

    1) What are you looking to do? Intalled system? Concert? Theater?
    2) How big is the space?
    3) Depending on the answer to #1, what genre?
    4) How many people and where?

    You haven't really given us a lot to work with. Give more details and I'm sure people would be able to give you better answers.
     
  3. avkid

    avkid Not a New User Fight Leukemia

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    Is it wrong to be scared by this topic?
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    Is this an enclosed arena, or open stadium?
     
  4. Oobleck1441

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    Haha, its nothing to be proud of, or brag about
    top open arena
    Sports events
    Depending on what we get, they'll consider moree
    seating... roughly 1500
     
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    Footer Senior Team Senior Team Premium Member

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    70v horns, thats the ticket!

    At least at most outdoor places it is...
     
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    avkid Not a New User Fight Leukemia

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    mbenonis Wireless Guy Administrator Premium Member

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    It would help to know your budget range. $25k? $50k? $100k? More?

    If you haven't dome this already, you need to draw up a list of requirements. For this arena, things to consider might include: referee mic (and a backup!), handheld mics for administration and presenters, In-Ear Monitors for talent/refs, computer-based playback systems for sound, video of some kind (LED wall maybe?), and the like.

    Next draw up a flow chart showing how everything connects together. Show what is where, and estimate how much cable is needed to make it all work. Start to spec out what equipment you think you need.

    Then run it by someone who's done this before. You can post it here, but I would seek out professional advice too. Make sure you haven't missed anything. Ask coaches, administration, etc what they envision being able to do and make sure your design covers that.

    Hope this helps!
     
  8. museav

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    It may just be how it is presented, but I'd suggest that you might want to start by stepping back and making the focus more on efficiently and effectively using the funds available to provide what is needed and expected rather than presenting the goal as primarily being your getting your hands on "new gadgets and equipment". Having fun with it is great but that should not take precedence over providing the necessary the system functionality and performance, the effective use of the funds available, the application of good design practice and most especially, safety.

    So let's start by defining what it is you're really doing and the current situation. Is this a new system? New facility? If it is new, where is it in the design and construction process? Has any thought been given to sound or video during the facility design? Have any expectations or budget for the systems been defined? How would the systems be used? What level of performance is expected? Are you installing this, is it design/build or is it design/bid/build with a design package going out to multiple bidders? If you can't already answer these types of questions, then you need to find out the answers before even starting to consider equipment.

    Let us know a little about you. What is your experience with system design and installation? Do you understand the concepts behind designing for coverage, intelligibility, etc.? What is your knowledge of commercial sound equipment and practices? Do you know how to determine what power, conduit and other infrastructure is required and how to get this information to the right people? If you plan on installing this yourself then do you have the appropriate qualifications, experience and, if required, licensing? If going out to bid, do you have experience in producing Bid Documents?

    Can you describe the arena in more detail? Is it more like a high school football field with seating on each side, a college football stadium with seating all around, a tennis stadium, a baseball field or what? Is it possibly multipurpose or reconfigurable where there may need to be more than one configuration supported? What kind of sports events will be held there? Will the system have to support special events or 'half time show' type events as well? Are there any concerns about the sound from the facility to surrounding area?
     
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    It should probably also be noted that high school and community type stadium and arena sound systems are typically very basic and not real exciting (although the initial physical installation typically involves a lot of risk and liability). Unless you have a college stadium or arena type budget, there usually isn't a lot to the running of the systems and the focus is normally on getting the right speakers in the right locations to make announcements intelligible over the crowd noise. Your excitement over running the system and interest in new gadgets and equipment definitely conflicts with at least my experience as to what most high school or similar arenas and stadiums would do for sound and thus is one reason why it seems necessary to know more about the specific project.
     

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