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What are these fixtures?

Discussion in 'Lighting and Electrics' started by Phantom_Sandwich, Oct 11, 2018.

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    Phantom_Sandwich Member

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    Anyone have a clue what these lights are and/or where I can get them? Or something similar? Or is this something that I would have to custom fabricate?

    EDIT: The client is trying to replicate the look of baseball stadium lights, at ground level, in a studio. So anything close to those will work.
     

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    RonHebbard Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    @Phantom_Sandwich What is the overall diameter of the reflector? What sockets are in them? What lamps are in them? Are they 14" or 18" scoops? Are the sockets Mogul screw bases?? Are the lamps 500, 1,000 or 1,500 Watts???
    Please do tell more. Have a look on Altman's site.
    EDIT: Check this link to Altman's scoops: https://www.altmanlighting.com/product-category/scoops/
    Toodleoo!
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    JohnD Well-Known Member Fight Leukemia

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    Google skypan light. Lots of images there.
    HERE is one DIY version.
     
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    I was thinking OLD skool Beam Projector. But a Sky-pan is closer in look and doesn't have the shiny reflector a BP does.

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    BTW a 500W BP at 5-10% makes an excellent pizza warmer if you put a metal pizza pan on the color frame holders.
     
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    Definitely sky pans.
     
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    I have no details about these lights at all. I was just sent a photo from the client saying, "I want these lights".

    They are to be used as a photo backdrop, so I am assuming enough power to provide a warm glow would suffice. The perspective is throwing me off, but judging by the size of the truss they are mounted to, I think they are bigger than 18" . Looks to me like 2'/3' in diameter.

    Thanks JohnD for the Skypan information. These seem to be exactly what I am looking for. At at least $1200 a piece, I am not sure the client would want to go this route, but it is worth letting them know. I don't think the DIY will be acheivable, as they intend to 'purchase' this equipment, and I don't feel comfortable selling a DIY kit that may travel other spots without me being there

    Any other thoughts or options are appreciated, but I think JohnD nailed it.

    Thanks,
    John
     
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    I've built something similar with mixing bowls and off the shelf sockets. Not exactly a product that they could purchase more of, but simple enough there's not too much that could go wrong.
     
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    JohnD Well-Known Member Fight Leukemia

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    As far as the OP sourcing commercial units, check out any local, long time film and TV equipment rental companies. They are the sort of thing that might be found at the back of the warehouse.
    As far as DIY, a cool variation of the "porkchop light" is to use half silvered light bulbs.
    From the google image search, it seems praise bands are very fond of this look.
    Something else I remember seeing, a local auto parts store has galvanized steel oil changing pans, about 18 " diameter, but very shallow.
     
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    They look like Old Beam Projectors to me. I'd be surprised though if someone could find that many, that work, and have lamps for them... So can't be a Beam Projector...
     
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    Depends on the beam projector in having lots as popular a few years ago again. Sky Pan, I think a flash in the pan last year popular and renting them better than buying them. As with the beam projector, I have my doubts about it's popularity say next year.
     
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    Since they are used as props and cannot be run at any significant brightness, I am in the "build your own with a salad bowl" camp! The socket will probably cost more than the bowl and the outcome will be in your choice of some unique looking lamp to stick in it.
    It's a prop! Just offset the lamp with an old soup can painted black.
     
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    “It’s just a prop!” Is definitely one of the classic blunders.
     
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    So is getting involved in a land war in Asia, but that never stopped us...
     
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    JohnD Well-Known Member Fight Leukemia

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    Attention Mods (where are the rockers?????) to quote the HUGE DIRECTOR Alfred Hitchcock-"It's just a movie."

    EDIT: To keep this on task, If using incandescent light bulbs on dimmers, make sure you really talk up that "classic vintage warm glow" when you dim them. That's the secret sauce of blinders.
     
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    One of the ESPN talk/interview shows has a bank of exactly these for the background. With longish focal length a wide aperture, and a little distance to the background, these could look huge and soft behind the subject, or scoot them closer and stop down for a smaller and crisp look. The reflectors unscrew from the socket, so you can actually insert the socket through a hole in a thin piece of material, and screw the reflector back on to hold it in place, so it's very easy to make a large bank of "sports lights."

    Skypan lights are cool for rock shows and such(or movie sets), but for a background, they would need to be lamped way down, you want the look of the reflector, but not all the light output.
     
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    At LDI I found a fixture that looks similar. Check out Mega lights. Circa.
     
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    JohnD Well-Known Member Fight Leukemia

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    Here is the vid:


    EDIT: In the interest of clarity, this fixture seems to be paying homage to the Robe PATT series.
     
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    I think the yoke would be harder to fake than the fixture- a pretty distinctive semi-circle shape. You could cut it out of plywood or MDF if you're confident it's only going to be used as a prop at stage level.
     
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