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What Kind of lights are these?

Discussion in 'Lighting and Electrics' started by Steve Robinson, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. Steve Robinson

    Steve Robinson New Member

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    I am new to the whole stage lighting thing. I usually do sound at our little community theater. Recently, our dimmer packs and control board went on the fritz. I am pushing that we go to LED lighting as it is much more economical as heating, power consumption, and overall lighting goes. I am attaching a picture of the current lights that we use. Can anyone help me by telling me what kind of light these are, are what would be the best LED replacement for them. I am trying to put together a proposal to our board and see of we can move into this new technology. At the very least, I would like to begin adding a little at a time since LED can be on the cost prohibited side. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

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    soundlight Well-Known Member

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    Those are Colortran 5/50 ellipsoidals, fresnels, and radial ellipsoidals of some type (maybe Century Lighting based on the paint). I'd look at the Chauvet E-160WW to replace the ellipsoidals. For the Fresnels, you could go the LED PAR route if you want color changing fixtures, there are a lot of different models out there.
     
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    Image 43 looks like a 6" L&E fresnel. #34 looks like an Altman or a Hub 6" fresnel. Probably 500 or 750W in both. The radial ellipsoidal is also probably 500W or 750W.
     
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    SteveB Well-Known Member

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    Ditto soundlight

    Image 35 is likely an Altman 65Q 6"fresnel

    Image 9 is (if memory serves) a Century 1500 series LekoLite ellipsoidal with what looks like a sleeve retrofitted to cover the existing white asbestos lead wires. Heads up on that.

    Given the existence of the Century LekoLite, image 43 might be a Century 6" fresnel. The T handle on the side of the unit has a more rounded shape as compared to the diamond shape of the fresnel in image 34, the diamond shape was an Altman style, rounded was Century, you can see a similar shape on the LekoLite. Century sold a special wrench to tighten the handle, its a collectors item now.
     
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    jonliles Active Member Fight Leukemia

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    I still have one, and an Alt-Wrench, too. The Century wrench was handed down to me from another lighting guy who retired. The Alt-wrench, I bought many moons ago.
     
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    derekleffew Resident Curmudgeon Senior Team Premium Member

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    Could you post side by side pictures? I always thought they were the same. My first "Altman wrench" I purchased from Olesen about 1980, and my lighting professor at the time laughed at me, saying, "I bet you $20 before the end of today's hang, you'll find a nut you'll need a Crescent wrench for." I didn't take the bet, and he was right. Someone had replaced the Jesus nut with hex-head bolt on some clamps.
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    While all true, the financial payback is not there yet for a retrofit situation. (New construction is a different matter.)
    @Steve Robinson , you're probably looking at $1000 to replace each ellipsoidal reflector spotlight, and $500 to replace each Fresnel. Plus a console capable of handling LED fixtures, ~$5000; and DMX-512 distribution (opto-splitter s, cables, and so forth). You'll also need a way of powering the LED lights NOT through a dimmer.

    What make and model is the console, are the dimmers, and how many of each type of fixture do you currently have?
     
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    jonliles Active Member Fight Leukemia

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    @derekleffew , I'll have to dig it out of storage. When I find it, I'll post photos.
     

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