BillConnerFASTC
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Strad - I believe the ANSI standard for the typical climbing carabiner requires labeling MBS in kN or pounds - but that is not a statutory law, just a standard that meets the ANSI requirements for their designation. It seems the ANSI fall protection standards require same, but I have not bought them - quite steep - nor read more than summaries which may mislead. So I'd say that yes, there is a "standard" that requires labeled devices and MBS, but not a law or governmental entity in this country that enforces that. (read my Protocol article on Codes vs Standards for more on this.)As an admirer of arena rigging and those who work in that field I was wondering where a carabiner would be used in a point? I wasn't aware of a rigging purpose of this device since it is so prevalent in rock/mountain climbing applications, I didn't even realize anyone made that particular hardware rated to that amount.
I'm not trying to get into speculation of this particular rigging scenario, I'm just curious on how it would fit into the equation, chain to spanset, stinger to chain, etc.? I thought they were primarily used with rope. I should also include I have no plans to do any sort of rigging involving this hardware, this aspect of our business is just fascinating to me. That being said, I respect the gravity of the situation and the wishes relayed through the aforementioned post. If my question is out of line, please let me know.
I'm not sure there is a standard as clear for, say, a turnbuckle or shackle, but usually not too hard to find via Google. Crosby seems to use a design factor of 5 - so if its marked or shown in data to be a 1000 WLL, then its 5000 MBS. That's probably OK for a static condition - like a lot of dead hung - but theatre rigging that lifts - with the combination of dynamic loading, the "overhead" factor, and tradition - generally has a design factor of 8 or 10 - so that 1000 pound WLL turnbuckle is only 500.
Keep in mind that the structural framing of a building is probably designed using a factor of 3 and may be lower in some cases.