Vectorworks 2014 "Hang Charts"

AxlD1234

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Hey Guys...Need your help trying to figure out how to create what i'm trying to make

I know of these as hang charts but i doin't know if they have another name...

In vectorworks 2014 I am trying to create some of these for some positions. Can anyone help?


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Hey Guys...Need your help trying to figure out how to create what i'm trying to make

I know of these as hang charts but i doin't know if they have another name...

In vectorworks 2014 I am trying to create some of these for some positions. Can anyone help?


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I use VW hang cards that I've created as a new document where I copy and past the original VW electric units onto from the original plot. My electrics are labeled on the US side of a raceway, thus I have the units on the card flipped horizontally and vertically so they orient as unit 1 on the L side of the sheet. As well, VW generates X and Y data and can share that with LW. You can then create a label legend on the hang card that shows the X data as distance from center line and have LW share that data with the hang card. My hang cards are templates essentially that have the rep. plot hang, but I can delete all that and use for a different hang. The card has an instrument key as well as will show unit quantities per electric as well as weights. All useful stuff for the electricians.
 
There's no need to copy the electrics, and a few reasons not to.
Just make new viewports of each electric. Rotation and class control should give you what you want.
 
There's no need to copy the electrics, and a few reasons not to.
Just make new viewports of each electric. Rotation and class control should give you what you want.

Rick, you are probably correct that viewports would do this. I've been using mine since before VW introduced VP's so never explored the options.

Some questions though, what are the reasons not to go this route ?. I've had no issues with data exchange so curious as to why you think this would cause issues.

As well, can you do a rotate V & H in a viewport ?, as well as print in a different scale ?. Then there are different label legends used on a separate document to allow data to appear in a location near a fixture that otherwise might conflict with attribute info on the main plot. Not sure I want to clutter a main drawing with the additional legends, but it might work.

Curious as to your thoughts and experiences.
 
The biggest issue I see is breaking the link between the main plot and your hang charts. One of the key improvements in the last few years is automatically updating the sheets and worksheets/schedules so that you can not print out of date data. Make a change to a fixture and everything updates from there.
  • Different scales: yes and options to scale text and symbols separately as needed.
  • Flip Rotate: yes of course, can get confusing without clues as to which way you're looking.
  • Label Legends: class control will keep things clear. Viewports hold class and layer settings (and overrides) so you only show what you what to show. Legends default to each type on it's own class, and you can duplicate elements so many different looks are quite feasible.
I've done a bunch of other odd things with VPs over the years. This is a basic move that I think is taught in their intro materials.
 
Yep, Listen to Rick on viewports. Create a new sheet for each card you need, that way you can define the print size, then you scale your view-port to that sheet. I do this for almost every show/event, in order to print things on 8.5x11" paper. I often do viewports for each truss, and squish them into one page. Or to just see one detailed segment of a design. Sometimes I just need to see fixture numbers and I could not care less about scale.

Also Look into the lighting tapes plugin. https://lightningtapes.com/ I do mostly corporate and Music/rock and roll, and even though this seems to be designed from a theater approach, I find it well worth the money. These hang tapes are pretty sweet, you don't even need hang cards, and you don't ever need to let a stagehand use a tape measure(huge time saver). I work with mostly moving lights and LEDs; everything that leaves our shop has been addresses and has a Sticker with the Fixture number as the largest font. The cases are also labeled with the fixture number.

I make the Fixture number the Biggest thing on the Truss tape, hang each tape on the truss or batons, and then unleash everyone on matching the number on the fixture with the number on the tape. A lot of stagehands are actually really smart and can be great electricians, but you must provide them with the information to do the job. You can include all of that info right on the lighting tape, from circuit number to fixture orientation.

The plugin is $99 is think, the printer is about $130-40, and paper is about $1 per 230ft roll. It gets paid for quickly.
 

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