Automated Fixtures Need Chauvet Q-Beam 260 LED profile for ETC Ion

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Help! There's no profile for the Chauvet Q-Beam 260 LED that we can enter in our ION. Great upgrades in our theatre but I can not work with in my design because there's no accessible profile I can use that's loaded in the ION software. Does anyone know of someone building one?

Thanks for any help!

M2
 
Help! There's no profile for the Chauvet Q-Beam 260 LED that we can enter in our ION. Great upgrades in our theatre but I can not work with in my design because there's no accessible profile I can use that's loaded in the ION software. Does anyone know of someone building one?

Thanks for any help!

M2
You can call etc tech support and they will create a profile for you. They're all about keeping the library up to date, in the best way.
Also, if you have the spec sheet handy, that could help them help you,

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So how does one distinguish a personality profile made (by ETC or end-user) from the fixture manufacturer's DMX chart; from one built by an external specialty company using an actual fixture with real-world values (Abstract Control Model)?

Wouldn't the latter be preferable? I understand it would take more time than the former, as a fixture would need to be shipped to London for evaluation. Can one convert a show based on the former to the latter, once the "good" profile is obtained?
 
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Help! There's no profile for the Chauvet Q-Beam 260 LED that we can enter in our ION. Great upgrades in our theatre but I can not work with in my design because there's no accessible profile I can use that's loaded in the ION software. Does anyone know of someone building one?

Thanks for any help!

M2

If it wasn't in 1.9.6, it may have been included in a library build that has been made since. I will check in the morning when I'm back at the desk.
 
It appears that the Q Beam 260 fixture has not yet been included in a library patch. I'll send you a PM in a minute with instructions for making a custom profile, and some other info.

Thanks!
 
So how does one distinguish a personality profile made (by ETC or end-user) from the fixture manufacturer's DMX chart; from one built by an external specialty company using an actual fixture with real-world values (Abstract Control Model)?
Ideally, you wouldn't be able to distinguish the difference as both should work properly. In reality, the differences show up in calibrated data. Fixtures that are generated from "an external specialty company using an actual fixture" will generally have color calibration data (if color mixing is present on the fixture) that shows as a gamut line in the color picker when the fixture is selected. Those fixtures with gobo parameters will also likely have the manufacturer's default gobo selections pre-populated in the wheel. This is visible in the gobo selection areas as images of the pattern instead of just a name.

Wouldn't the latter be preferable? I understand it would take more time than the former, as a fixture would need to be shipped to London for evaluation.
The preference of one versus the other can be debated in threads related to abstract control model. If you were intending on needing to change the fixture from one type to another, the calibrated data from both would help to make sure that the data you had already programmed would be closer to the same look when you switched. (In practice, I have never found computer algorithms to be 1:1 substitute for a human eye making the judgement of color matching, but they can get close.) If you don't intend on changing the fixture from one type to another, then you may prefer to skip the extra steps and time requirements of calibrated data in the fixture profile and just build one to get your show going quickly.

Can one convert a show based on the former to the latter, once the "good" profile is obtained?

Yes, one can change a show's fixture types and profiles at any time. The gotcha is, of course, that you may have data that was input (or omitted) in a previous version of the profile that can cause the "good" version of the profile to not behave as expected. The rule of thumb when switching fixture profiles (or updating from older versions of the same profile) is to always double check your actual output to make sure it matches what you intended to have happen. You may need to tweak the existing data to conform to the new profile's expectations.

Sorry for the delay in response. I was on vacation and hadn't been able to monitor the interwebs.
 
Sorry for the delay in response. I was on vacation and hadn't been able to monitor the interwebs.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the input Kirk,
I hope you enjoyed your well deserved vacation!
 

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