VipermanGTX
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Speak your mind. I'm interested in what people think about these two awsome vocal Mics. Its a heated arguement at our school.
VipermanGTX said:Speak your mind. I'm interested in what people think about these two awsome vocal Mics. Its a heated arguement at our school.
You can pre-set an EQ on a channel that has a 58 or 57, without even sound checking--its THAT predictable
wolf825 said:...Its popularity has to do with the fact that nearly everyone in Sound KNOWS what the thing sounds like, knows what it does and knows HOW to EQ and use it to get what they want out of it to get by. Its fairly simple for mic's. EQing feedback out of a 58 is basic sound 101--at high gain it screams at 4khz, and 640-800hz...and for general all-purpose EQ for nearly ANY application, you tweek a bit around 2k and 8k to level it out--and you are done. ...
-wolf
If a 58 is used for close, handheld vocals (the application it was designed for), you definitely do NOT want to "up the low end a bit" because of the proximity effect. This is a pretty common problem with cardioid mics, not just the 58, where having the mic really close to the sound source accentuates the bass frequencies.I'm going to take a guess and say that I'd up the low end a bit, and take down the high end from 3 to 10 KHz.
mbenonis1 said:wolf825 said:...Its popularity has to do with the fact that nearly everyone in Sound KNOWS what the thing sounds like, knows what it does and knows HOW to EQ and use it to get what they want out of it to get by. Its fairly simple for mic's. EQing feedback out of a 58 is basic sound 101--at high gain it screams at 4khz, and 640-800hz...and for general all-purpose EQ for nearly ANY application, you tweek a bit around 2k and 8k to level it out--and you are done. ...
-wolf
Apparently I haven't passed sound 101, seeing as I've never EQ'ed for an SM58... ;-) How does one EQ for a 58? Looking at the response graph, I'm going to take a guess and say that I'd up the low end a bit, and take down the high end from 3 to 10 KHz.
Am I reading this right?
seanb said:You can pre-set an EQ on a channel that has a 58 or 57, without even sound checking--its THAT predictable
I hope for the sanity of all people who must sit through your mix that you are actually mixing. There is more to soundchecks than just doing rough work on individual channels. A little bit of EQ to correct for mic response is fine (very little if proper mic placement is used) but most of your EQ should be concentrated on how this input will fit into the mix. Maybe your backup vocalist is fighting with the lead - drop some of the 3k and 600hz (YMMV) from the backup to give them some distance.
Although I understand you are saying that you can do some EQ without hearing the source, we should't give beginning soundpeople the impression that once you understand the response of a given microphone (or source) you can skip the soundcheck and go straight to performance
(Although, as an aside, Big Mick who has done FOH for metallica for a long time is well known for skipping soundchecks with them. He does linechecks with the instrument techs and goes into performance. He says that he's been with Metallica for long enough to know what's going to come off that stage when the show starts)
Another thought - don't place too much weight on the frequency response graph.
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