The above Ad will no longer appear after you Sign Up for Free!

Small powered speakers... Opinions?

Discussion in 'Sound, Music, and Intercom' started by gafftaper, Jan 17, 2008.

  1. gafftaper

    gafftaper Senior Team Senior Team Fight Leukemia

    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    2,702
    Occupation:
    Theater Manager & T.D.
    Location:
    Seattle, Washington
    Ok So here's the rough outline of my new theater's system. I've got an Allen and Heath 24 channel GL2400 mixer, cobranet, 8 channels of QSC AMPs going out, Four ElectroVoice Zx5-90B mains, Four ElectroVoice Zx1-90 for fill/surround effects. JBL ASB 6118 Subwoofer on another QSC AMP. I can't remember the brand of DSP. So I want to pick up a couple of small powered speakers to have around for "just in case" situations. If someone needs a monitor quick, or we need to do some sort of presentation on a microphone in the lobby, I don't know... lot's of situations where having a couple active speakers around can just be handy. I'm thinking small-midsize 30lb-ish models like the SRM 350/EON 10 G2. I don't need the big SRM450 or larger size.

    What do you like in that class?
    Mackie
    JBL
    Tapco Thump
    Peavy
    Yamaha
    Sweetwater seems really high on the RCF ART 310-A
     
  2. derekleffew

    derekleffew Resident Curmudgeon Senior Team Premium Member

    Messages:
    4,468
    Likes Received:
    2,870
    Location:
    Las Vegas, NV, USA
    Anchor Liberty and/or Anchor AN-1000X.
     
  3. gafftaper

    gafftaper Senior Team Senior Team Fight Leukemia

    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    2,702
    Occupation:
    Theater Manager & T.D.
    Location:
    Seattle, Washington
    Wow that's pretty sweet Derek. I love the built in CD player and wireless mic. What a great option for a complete stand alone sound system that is fairly idiot proof. Those look like they are a little out of the price range I want to spend. I was trying to stay down in the $600 or below range like the other brands I listed. While I've got the budget to spend if it's something I really need, there are a lot of things I really need and this isn't an area I want to get too crazy with.
     
  4. Footer

    Footer Senior Team Senior Team Premium Member

    Messages:
    9,451
    Likes Received:
    1,857
    Location:
    Saratoga Springs, NY
    Liberty's are great, and hold up pretty well, except for the rechargables, the batterys they ship with don't tend to last long. Fender makes a pretty great little active wedge that works well. I have never been a huge fan of the eons, too much plastic. I have heard good things of the mackie active line. I would def. get something with points if you can, and in a small of package as possible.
     
  5. derekleffew

    derekleffew Resident Curmudgeon Senior Team Premium Member

    Messages:
    4,468
    Likes Received:
    2,870
    Location:
    Las Vegas, NV, USA
    Footer had a great point about being able to use whatever you buy as a wedge. I suppose these are out of your price range also?
     
  6. gafftaper

    gafftaper Senior Team Senior Team Fight Leukemia

    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    2,702
    Occupation:
    Theater Manager & T.D.
    Location:
    Seattle, Washington
    Meyer's out of my price range Derek. I had Mackie SRM 450's at my old high school and they were great. They won't win any competitions with something from Meyer... but they produced a lot of sound, were sturdy, and easy to use. One time we had three assemblies going on at the same time I sent one 450 to the cafeteria, one to the gym, and the auditorium got the house system. They were just so easy and flexible. On the other hand you are right about the excessive use of plastic. They were also were to big for what I currently need, something smaller and hopefully better sound. I'm really intrigued by those RCF ART's and hope someone's can tell me more about them.
     
  7. tomed101

    tomed101 Active Member

    Messages:
    189
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Brisbane. Australia
    I used some RCF's recently, but cant remember the model. They were 15" powered speakers and 18" powered subs. I had a problem with one of the 15's overheat and shut down constantly. No idea why, and the other one didn't do it. The rental company refused to refund any money... Never going back there
     
  8. Chris15

    Chris15 CBMod CB Mods Premium Member

    Messages:
    4,141
    Likes Received:
    421
    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    Gaff, now I must admit I haven't actually listened to them specifically, but I can tell you that the RCF ARTs have been making appearances on high end gigs down here on Southplanet. Both active and passive models exist and seem to be held in esteem to be used given the choice of virtually anything. BUT in the couple of instances I have seen them, they may have been chosen as best compromise of weight and sound, eg. when they have been flown and had to be hauled up...
     
  9. SerraAva

    SerraAva Active Member

    Messages:
    361
    Likes Received:
    11
    Location:
    Southern New Jersey
    If you don't like Eons because of plastic, you won't like the Mackies either. They are all plastic as well. As far as Eons go, great cabinets, can take an absolute beating. The 15" Eons have much better low end response then the 10s do, worlds apart. They are larger, but well worth it for music, video, bands, and monitors that need some punch. I know people who have gotten the 10s, kicking themselves after they hear the 15s, just food for thought.

    Anchors are also great boxes, but again, plastic. They however don't look as cheap as Mackies or Eons. They also don't sound as good as the Mackies or Eons in my opinion, and also don't hit as hard. For Corporate monitors, speaking, and delays, they are great. For clubs, DJs, loud playback, and bands, I would either Eons or Mackies, preference going to Eons. I have 6 of them in the warehouse that are a few years old at this point that have been through hell and back more then a few times, and still going strong like they are brand new.
     
  10. soundlight

    soundlight Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,666
    Likes Received:
    330
    Location:
    PA & NJ
    My vote's on the Eons. They're really sturdy (have had one fall 4' multiple times, not my fault, but it still worked perfectly!) and also are great for stage monitors (what I mainly used them for). They'll also do just fine as mains for a smaller room. I think that the plastic enclosure makes them far more sturdy, even if they don't look as nice as plywood boxes.
     
  11. jkowtko

    jkowtko Active Member

    Messages:
    806
    Likes Received:
    50
    Location:
    Redwood City, CA
    I thought he wanted smaller than SRM450s.

    I too am looking for small self-powered speakers to use for FX, and maybe for voice PA, downfills, etc.

    The Anchor and RCF I didn't know about before so I'll check those out.

    Others to consider:
    - Galaxy pa5x140
    - Helicon VSM200 or VSM300.
    - Yamaha MSR100
     
  12. gafftaper

    gafftaper Senior Team Senior Team Fight Leukemia

    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    2,702
    Occupation:
    Theater Manager & T.D.
    Location:
    Seattle, Washington
    Yeah I'm only looking at a smaller model like the Eon 10 or the Mackie 350. I've got a full sound system already these are just extra.

    One thing that really intrigued me about the RCF's is they weigh less than Mackie 350/EON 10, but have more power. The Sweetwater review makes the sound like they are a superior sounding product as well... throwing around the term "reference" quality... not sure how generous they are with that though.
     
  13. avkid

    avkid Not a New User Fight Leukemia

    Messages:
    5,948
    Likes Received:
    225
    Occupation:
    Stageline Operator/Staging Supervisor
    Location:
    Howell, NJ
    Excuse me whilst I stop screaming at the laptop screen.
    No thank you.
     
  14. avkid

    avkid Not a New User Fight Leukemia

    Messages:
    5,948
    Likes Received:
    225
    Occupation:
    Stageline Operator/Staging Supervisor
    Location:
    Howell, NJ
    Eh...the first generation ones are a nightmare to service.
    The sound is the definition of ok.
    RCF makes their own drivers, which are about the same quality as the B&M we use.
    I would definitely go for the RCF, contact a friendly dealer and you'll get them cheaper.
     
  15. avkid

    avkid Not a New User Fight Leukemia

    Messages:
    5,948
    Likes Received:
    225
    Occupation:
    Stageline Operator/Staging Supervisor
    Location:
    Howell, NJ
    I am disappointed that you haven't listened to my anti passive loudspeaker ranting.
    :(:(
     
  16. BillESC

    BillESC Well-Known Member Premium Member

    Messages:
    2,325
    Likes Received:
    362
    Location:
    Kilmarnock, VA
    For your application the Mackie SRM 150 will fit the bill nicely. I'm impressed with the quality of reproduction and simply floored with the power they offer.

    http://www.mackie.com/products/srm150/

    They will fit in your budget as well.
     
  17. avkid

    avkid Not a New User Fight Leukemia

    Messages:
    5,948
    Likes Received:
    225
    Occupation:
    Stageline Operator/Staging Supervisor
    Location:
    Howell, NJ
    That's all fine and dandy, but the op is looking for something more in the neighborhood of 300 watts.
    Mackie's marketing bull is angering me lately.
     
  18. gafftaper

    gafftaper Senior Team Senior Team Fight Leukemia

    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    2,702
    Occupation:
    Theater Manager & T.D.
    Location:
    Seattle, Washington
    I try not to listen to any of your rants Phil. I only pay attention when you reach full Hissy Fit. :mrgreen:
     
  19. gafftaper

    gafftaper Senior Team Senior Team Fight Leukemia

    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    2,702
    Occupation:
    Theater Manager & T.D.
    Location:
    Seattle, Washington
    Yeah I definitely want something the high 200 low 300 range. Something loud enough to use as a stage wedge if needed.

    I'm definitely intrigued by the RCF's. That Sweetwater product review really got my attention.
     
  20. avkid

    avkid Not a New User Fight Leukemia

    Messages:
    5,948
    Likes Received:
    225
    Occupation:
    Stageline Operator/Staging Supervisor
    Location:
    Howell, NJ
    I'll see what I can do about finding a local dealer to give you a demo.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice