UV Cannon or UV Wash

[Cforand]

I am doing lighting for a church camp this summer and they are wanting to cover the room in blacklights.. The room is 111FTX97FT..25ft Ceilings Any idea what kind of coverage I would need? I am looking to buy the fixtures so I have them, but would rent them if I need some really big stuff. I have looked at what Elation has, but not sure what else I should look for... any help would be great....


Craig

 

[techno89]

The Wash would be better

 

[Cforand]

Why? whats the coverage difference? what brand should I use?

 

[techno89]

The wash is going to flood more, I've seen the elations and they seemed fine to me.

 

[Cforand]

I do get that a wash will "wash more", but what about the fact that the elation fixture is only 100watts, and the UV Cannon is 400 watts...? Just trying to make it all come together...

 

[shiben]

Demo out a couple units from various brands, and see which one you like the best. With a room that large, I would guess you are going to need quite a few units... Price will start to become a factor. Wildfire makes some really kick butt units, but they are probably gonna be a bit expensive... Wildfire Lighting (UV Long Throws, Effects Master Black Lights, Spectra Master Color Changers)

 

[shiben]

I do get that a wash will "wash more", but what about the fact that the elation fixture is only 100watts, and the UV Cannon is 400 watts...? Just trying to make it all come together...

As to the Elation fixture being lower wattage, you can afford a lot more of them...

 

[DuckJordan]

also the reason for a lower wattage is the cannon is designed to throw the pool of light much farther than the wash is. Usages for stage for each would be

Cannon would be placed on the catwalk to give you a decent beam from a distance
while the wash would be more 15 foot above the peice being lit.

Think of it as a comparison between a Fresnel and a scoop.
The wash is the scoop while the fresnel is the cannon.

 

[BillESC]

The difference also lies in how the UV is produced. The Cannon uses a high wattage lamp and a woods glass lens to subtract all but the UV rays whereas, the UV Wash or for even more output, Elation's UV Panel uses a lower wattage florescent light source with greater UV output.

The UV Panel will offer you the best dollar value considering output vs. cost.

 

[seanandkate]

I've got 4 of the fluorescent Elations that I've used to cover my black box space (about 40'x60'). Good coverage, some falloff with distance, but the units are cheap enough that you could use more or add more as budget becomes available. Will the strike time on something like a Wildfire be an issue, or are you looking at a set-it and forget-it kinda thing?

 

[anshu]

Consider Floros, cheap and you get a lot of punch out UV units. Other than that sounds like the Wildfire wash units will be your friend....

 

[ejsandstrom]

We bought 2 of the Elation UV panels. I am under whelmed to say the least. We have a 30 x 50 space with a vaulted ceiling. We mounted them in the front and unless it is completely black in the room you cannot see any thing. On top of that one was bad out of the box (promptly taken care of by Elation) and now the other has a bad bulb after 20 our so hours of use. They are very cheep by comparison to every thing else so maybe 5 or 6 would work for the price of one of the bigger ones.

 

[DuckJordan]

We bought 2 of the Elation UV panels. I am under whelmed to say the least. We have a 30 x 50 space with a vaulted ceiling. We mounted them in the front and unless it is completely black in the room you cannot see any thing. On top of that one was bad out of the box (promptly taken care of by Elation) and now the other has a bad bulb after 20 our so hours of use. They are very cheep by comparison to every thing else so maybe 5 or 6 would work for the price of one of the bigger ones.

It may just be how you used them 2 of them to cover a 30 x 50 space is going to be difficult without paying the large amount of cash on higher end UV washes.

 

[bishopthomas]

I've only used the Wildfires personally but they worked great to cover an entire basketball gym.

 

[chausman]

I've only used the Wildfires personally but they worked great to cover an entire basketball gym.

How many are you using?

 

[bishopthomas]

How many are you using?

Oh yeah, a pair. We were setup on the long side, so needed a wide throw. Lights were on "goalpost" truss on each side of a 40' stage, at about 16'.