X32 firmware update.

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Hey everyone. I'm new here and new in general to live production although I have played and lead in bands for years. Our churches X32 console is currently running firmware vs. 2.16. I believe Beringer is at 4.09. Is there any reason to make the upgrade? If so, is there any considerations I should know about before making the change. Thanks.
 

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Version 4.00 and all minor versions afterwards contain a major GUI interface re-design. If you're used to 2.16 it might take you a few minutes to get the hang of the new OS. I wouldn't make this change before an important gig without having a chance to practice with it.

I am also hearing that Behringer has significantly scrolled back their tech support for X32. Others on this forum probably know more about it than I do. Something you might want to be aware of.

Here's a partial list of firmware updates and their features:

 

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P.S. I used OS 4.03 on an X32 for a streamed theatrical event at a private college last October with no apparent software bugs or issues. Doesn't mean others won't have issues with it, but as far as my efforts it seemed pretty stable.
 

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The improvements and changes are worthwhile. However, making a change from 2.xx to 4.xx you may have issues when you use stored scenes, snippets, and libraries that were created in version 2.xx. At the very least, backup all of those things that you want to save to a USB drive, because they will be erased.

This is why you should keep up with updates. Generally, sequential updates won't break things, but jumping over a major version change, like version 3.xx, might. This is true for most digital devices, not just the X32.

If you want to PM your email address to me, I still have a copy of version 3.11 that I can send you. That way, you could go from 2 to 3, and 3 to 4, which should avoid problems.

One other thing. When you update, you will need to update the software on any device you connect to the console, like PCs, iPads, etc.
 
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^^^ What they said.

IIRC you'll have to do an update to v3.11 (not 3.12) before updating to v4.xx, and unlike previous updates that "might" zap your saved scenes, snippets, and FX/EQ libraries... 4.xx WILL ABSOLUTELY erase them.

After you do the update, go to YooToob and watch Drew Brashler's excellent series on Version 4, first episode here:
 

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I appreciate everyone's replies. While I'm comfortable with major software upgrades on my personal devices, it sounds like I better leave this up to the company who originally installed the board. TimMc, I have been watching some of Drew's videos. There is so much great info on the X32.
 

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I appreciate everyone's replies. While I'm comfortable with major software upgrades on my personal devices, it sounds like I better leave this up to the company who originally installed the board. TimMc, I have been watching some of Drew's videos. There is so much great info on the X32.
If the installation company still has an active warranty on the install, then yes, have them do it. If not, inquire of whomever is in charge of such things in your house of worship, and ask any other stakeholders that use this console and see if there are strong opinions one way or the other.

V4 is a worthy update and I recommend it. I suppose you could get a copy of the existing firmware and back up the console as it currently is. Do the updates and if you don't like it or there are later objections you can restore it to the previous state.
 
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Hey TimMc. The board is definitely not under warranty and to be honest, all the scenes need to be redone as they have become a patchwork of various settings done by the various volunteers over the years. I want to create some uniformity. My concern is we have 2 S16 on stage and I don't know if they will work in the same way with the new firmware. I have no doubt in my abilities to update the console but will it communicate with everything else in the same manner afterwards?
 

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As was said, the UI is very different from 2,3, to 4, but the routing is essentially the same. They did add support for some kind of 1 to 1 patching (I haven't messed around with it, so I can't really speak on it), but we use a DL32 on the AES50 line and it worked fine from 3 updating to 4. We still do the bank of 8 patches as was required in pre-4 versions.
 
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Hey TimMc. The board is definitely not under warranty and to be honest, all the scenes need to be redone as they have become a patchwork of various settings done by the various volunteers over the years. I want to create some uniformity. My concern is we have 2 S16 on stage and I don't know if they will work in the same way with the new firmware. I have no doubt in my abilities to update the console but will it communicate with everything else in the same manner afterwards?
Your S-16 boxes will work like they always have, ditto for the expansion card. :cool:
 
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I just discovered that Behringer released version 4.06 earlier this month. It's always nice to see they are still committed to the product.
 

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Version 4.06 – (09 March 2021)

The console 4.06 firmware update introduces Improvements and Bug Fixes to the DCA and Mutegroup assignment and adds functionality to the Snippets and Parameter Safes.

We recommend to periodically check for new updates, for the latest features and improvements. Our development team is eager to react to customer suggestions and to amaze you with improvements and new features. Visit behringer.com to download the latest firmware, install the update and enjoy the full potential of your X32.

This new X32 Firmware version contains:

Improvements


  • Matrix, M/C, and LR channels can be assigned to DCA and mute groups
  • Snippets can now contain the Stereo Bus LR switch parameter
  • Parameter Safe for control surface state
  • DCA Spill doesn’t move unused faders
Bug Fixes

• Folder names with non ASCII characters are hidden
 

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Do the 4.x release notes say whether you have to upgrade to {any,the final} 3.x first?
No, that was a lesson personally learned. Had 5 mixers to update, the first one took an hour, the rest took 90 seconds each.
 
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