Ah' thanks for the reminder. Time is indeed up.
For some reason it's common to define a
bolt in various un-educated ways.
Just corrected someone (same department) today in how to define1/2-13 thin Nylock
nut in all ways of it's description. And why it's "the
nut of last resorts" only if other options are not available. I worked with him on side lock nuts, and proper sized bolts... amazing he was able to use 2.1/4"
socket head cap screws in the clamps with half cheseborough and harp clamps (my term) with full nylock nuts in the end. Amazing, nobody needs to use such a
nut - especally if not gr.8. Time spent figuring out how this can work properly as opposed to doing it as normall.. Gee I need more I cannot define the
nut.. but we need more of them because otherwise with a normal Nylock
nut with the factory harp clamp won't work. This much less thousands of the nuts requested in
stock and even bins of bolts nobody has time to sort. Yes they will work.
This in coming to me from the department in asking... "We are out of thin nylock nuts, can you get more?" In his case, it was the grade 8 version which I only buy these days... very expensive. Why the Gr.8 nylock nuts? Because with only like three threads of steel holding the clamp on... is there another way to do this? Yes, there was another way to do it.
So... 7/16-20 x 1.1/4" SHFH screw labeled bin - for storage of those bolts. SHFH means (hex)
socket head the
driver as opposed to something like
phillips head. So the SH is a hex driven
bolt. FH is the type of
bolt - see above. Common letters given for a type of
bolt....
(No! that's not what the problem is in not understanding the funny part of this!)
Young in-experienced technicians often don't get or even half get what they learn. So as often... I need a 3/4"
bolt... You need a what? Turns out that is for some reason misunderstood requesting wrench size for the
bolt, in this case 1/2-13 they need. Funny how the reverse is also true in wanting say a 1/2"
socket for a 1/2-13
bolt. Just so confusing...
So... 7/16-20 x 1.1/4" SHFH screws, do we get the misunderstanding in labeling about the first part of the label? This is a even
flat head
bolt using a 7/16" wrench in defining what's in the bin. Approve of by the department manager... (lower case letters intended.)
Ah' but it's a
flat head screw... Defined as a 1/4-20x1.1/4"
Socket Head
Flat Head Screw... it doesn't have a hex top to it. There is the interesting and kind of funny mis-labeling part of the problem. It's abstract.. someone who doesn't understand bolts... still focused on wrench size for what
nut to use with the
bolt labeled it that way. This as opposed to even what hex key
driver for the
bolt. Someone had a theory of what wrench drives the
bolt.. never had a slap upside the head moment when approching even at least the shop's
bolt wall in getting more. Or dpt. manager's training before or after.
So the final answer was acceptable for two solutions to the labeling...
First is it a 1/4-20 x 1.1/4"
Socket Head
Flat Head
bolt, or a 1/4-20 x 1.1/2"
Socket Head
Flat Head Screw. One would think the total length of a
flat head screw would be measured... But a question about the un-trained individual marking the found bin... Did on
Flat head screw this person by chance
mark it properlly? Or did they get intercepted at some
point so as to measure the
bolt from under the head of it - like a hex
bolt? Oh'... in not understanding anything else... you measure the length of a hex
bolt from under it's head. Not getting the concept of the fastener length. This and general understanding of bolts.
What was on the bin marked... funny but also sad.
My department laughed about the labeling of the parts bin... TBD the rest.
The ah' I didn't get it yet in posting I hope helps seeing what is coming to you. It's becomming common to me.