Enttec splitters

Let me first say that we regret causing techieman33 to feel as though his problem was not going to be resolved satisfactorily. It has been recorded in our system and steps have been taken to rectify it completely. If it appeared otherwise for a time, that is perhaps due to our poor communication and not because we purposefully would abandon a customer in their time of true need.

Towards the goal of getting this resolved, the following steps have been taken.

  • The plastic end caps which were not in stock in the USA, have been ordered from the factory. We don't have a firm ETA on them yet but should know more early next week.
  • We asked the customer for his mailing address had planned to ship him the plastic cut-out at our expense when the item arrives in the USA. (In light of things read here, that may need to be revisited now.)
  • Our factory has been made aware of the problem so that they can double-check all manufacturing and QC procedures. If there are any loose ends that can be tied up to prevent this recurring, they will do so.

Nobody at ENTTEC is disputing the historical record here, but there is a significant gap between the interpretation of these events presented above and our own.

The customer's first contact with the ENTTEC team was with a customer service person, not a technical support team member, and she was absolutely correct that before an RMA can be issued someone from our technical side needs to look at the relevant details of the case and assess how best to remedy the problem.

Full Compass correctly referenced ENTTEC's policy to avoid promising their customers a brand new unit without some communication between our various entities beforehand. This stops the practice of treating a software problem or driver conflict with the issuance of brand new hardware that won't behave any differently until the root problem is solved. It's a very useful policy, but perhaps there will be
times when it is too constraining to cover every situation equally well.

It's completely true that after hearing what the problem was, we suggested to the customer that we would prefer to send a replacement piece of plastic, instead of exchanging the entire unit. What hasn't been examined is our motivation for that determination. I made a judgment call which was meant to give techieman33 the best experience possible, given what I knew the underlying facts to be.

Since the plastic end-cap is in no way related to the functionality of a DMX splitter, a crack should not prevent him from using the device while we resolve the issue. Sending it here to be fixed (or replaced
if we can't solve the problem on the bench) would entail probably a week or more of back and forth transportation, during which time the splitter is not in hand to use. Sending him the part means he can
fix it (with a Phillips screw driver and about 4 minutes of time).

Even if the policy were a little different regarding what is a replacement and what is a repair, returning the unit and getting a new one from us might have still taken longer than the plan ENTTEC is pursuing, since we have been periodically backordered on this product due to high demand for the D-SPLIT lately.

ENTTEC remains committed to providing a quality product at a fair price, and to that end will attempt to do the right thing whenever a product doesn't live up to expectations. Defining how best to achieve that is sometimes a subjective task, but nobody is more in the customer's corner than I am.

Respectfully,
Jeremy Kumin
US Sales Manager
Enttec Americas, LLC


I just want to say that I had to offer my address, or give me a simple we'll contact you again as soon as the part is available. All that was said was you didn't have the parts and didn't know when you would get more. Nor was there any kind of time table given, for all I knew it would be 6 months or more. Simply asking for my address, or asking how I wanted to be contacted when you got the parts in, as well as some kind of timetable would have left me feeling a lot better. I didn't like the mystery of wondering how or when I would get the part.
 
Let me first say that we regret causing techieman33 to feel as though his problem was not going to be resolved satisfactorily. It has been recorded in our system and steps have been taken to rectify it completely. If it appeared otherwise for a time, that is perhaps due to our poor communication and not because we purposefully would abandon a customer in their time of true need.

Towards the goal of getting this resolved, the following steps have been taken.

  • The plastic end caps which were not in stock in the USA, have been ordered from the factory. We don't have a firm ETA on them yet but should know more early next week.
  • We asked the customer for his mailing address had planned to ship him the plastic cut-out at our expense when the item arrives in the USA. (In light of things read here, that may need to be revisited now.)
  • Our factory has been made aware of the problem so that they can double-check all manufacturing and QC procedures. If there are any loose ends that can be tied up to prevent this recurring, they will do so.

Nobody at ENTTEC is disputing the historical record here, but there is a significant gap between the interpretation of these events presented above and our own.

The customer's first contact with the ENTTEC team was with a customer service person, not a technical support team member, and she was absolutely correct that before an RMA can be issued someone from our technical side needs to look at the relevant details of the case and assess how best to remedy the problem.

Full Compass correctly referenced ENTTEC's policy to avoid promising their customers a brand new unit without some communication between our various entities beforehand. This stops the practice of treating a software problem or driver conflict with the issuance of brand new hardware that won't behave any differently until the root problem is solved. It's a very useful policy, but perhaps there will be
times when it is too constraining to cover every situation equally well.

It's completely true that after hearing what the problem was, we suggested to the customer that we would prefer to send a replacement piece of plastic, instead of exchanging the entire unit. What hasn't been examined is our motivation for that determination. I made a judgment call which was meant to give techieman33 the best experience possible, given what I knew the underlying facts to be.

Since the plastic end-cap is in no way related to the functionality of a DMX splitter, a crack should not prevent him from using the device while we resolve the issue. Sending it here to be fixed (or replaced
if we can't solve the problem on the bench) would entail probably a week or more of back and forth transportation, during which time the splitter is not in hand to use. Sending him the part means he can
fix it (with a Phillips screw driver and about 4 minutes of time).

Even if the policy were a little different regarding what is a replacement and what is a repair, returning the unit and getting a new one from us might have still taken longer than the plan ENTTEC is pursuing, since we have been periodically backordered on this product due to high demand for the D-SPLIT lately.

ENTTEC remains committed to providing a quality product at a fair price, and to that end will attempt to do the right thing whenever a product doesn't live up to expectations. Defining how best to achieve that is sometimes a subjective task, but nobody is more in the customer's corner than I am.

Respectfully,
Jeremy Kumin
US Sales Manager
Enttec Americas, LLC

Jeremy

Welcome to the booth, and thanks for sharing your perspective.
 
I just want to say that I had to offer my address, or give me a simple we'll contact you again as soon as the part is available. All that was said was you didn't have the parts and didn't know when you would get more. Nor was there any kind of time table given, for all I knew it would be 6 months or more. Simply asking for my address, or asking how I wanted to be contacted when you got the parts in, as well as some kind of timetable would have left me feeling a lot better. I didn't like the mystery of wondering how or when I would get the part.

We should have asked for it sooner, but here is a quote from my email:

Tue, 17 Jun 2014 04:35 pm (4 days ago)
....
Anyhow, do give us your address now that we're talking about it to facilitate the parts shipment when it arrives.
....​

I don't think Control Booth was put here to give us a forum to argue semantics like whether that was asking or instructing you to provide information. In my mind: we asked, you provided. I'm obviously not going to quote your answer here to provide further context.

We are a small operation and sometimes have more emails and phone calls to reply to than we can adequately handle in a given day. The exchange where I said the part was out of stock was meant to buy some time until I could get back to you at a later point, and follow up with shipping details. The amount of time I saved has been overwhelmingly counterbalanced by the writing of posts to this thread, so both from a customer service perspective, and from a time management one, I feel a lesson has been learned. We'll try to do better for the next person who has an issue which requires similar handling.
 
We are a small operation and sometimes have more emails and phone calls to reply to than we can adequately handle in a given day. The exchange where I said the part was out of stock was meant to buy some time until I could get back to you at a later point, and follow up with shipping details. The amount of time I saved has been overwhelmingly counterbalanced by the writing of posts to this thread, so both from a customer service perspective, and from a time management one, I feel a lesson has been learned. We'll try to do better for the next person who has an issue which requires similar handling.

Snarky and passive aggressive remarks generally don't go far in winning new or returning customers. Being humble, apologetic, and treating even a small customer as if they are your largest client, will build you an empire.
Also, How does avoiding collecting someones contact information, only to send yet another email to ask for the information later, save you any time?




Fleenor, and Swisson splits are great! I really recommend the Swissons, they are very solid, ic's are soldered, and they have solved a lot of iffy DMX issues for me. The only downside to the Fleenor's is that the socketed IC can work loose over time, but on the flip-side, they are easily replaceable if they go bad.
 
Snarky and passive aggressive remarks generally don't go far in winning new or returning customers. Being humble, apologetic, and treating even a small customer as if they are your largest client, will build you an empire.
Also, How does avoiding collecting someones contact information, only to send yet another email to ask for the information later, save you any time?




Fleenor, and Swisson splits are great! I really recommend the Swissons, they are very solid, ic's are soldered, and they have solved a lot of iffy DMX issues for me. The only downside to the Fleenor's is that the socketed IC can work loose over time, but on the flip-side, they are easily replaceable if they go bad.

I really don't feel that Jeremy was snarky or passive aggressive in his post. In my day job, I'm often thrown into the role of customer support and occasionally, stuff happens and its only apparent, after it's all over, what I should have done in the beginning. We are all human, and we on ControlBooth are also a community, and therefore do our best to be respectful to one another.

I do think that ControlBooth is a viable support channel for manufacturers and many of them actively monitor ControlBooth to be able to respond directly to issues and to provide customer support. I.E. Apollo, ETC, Chauvet, and others.




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I really don't feel that Jeremy was snarky or passive aggressive in his post. In my day job, I'm often thrown into the role of customer support and occasionally, stuff happens and its only apparent, after it's all over, what I should have done in the beginning. We are all human, and we on ControlBooth are also a community, and therefore do our best to be respectful to one another.

I do think that ControlBooth is a viable support channel for manufacturers and many of them actively monitor ControlBooth to be able to respond directly to issues and to provide customer support. I.E. Apollo, ETC, Chauvet, and others.




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I suppose you are right; its more defensive.
 
My point should have been more clearly stated.
a) A customer does not care if you don't have enough people to answer phone calls and emails; hire someone. That is your problem; don't put it on the customer.
b) Don't go back and forth about who asked or who offered contact information; this is childish. Just say sorry(even if it was not your fault) and ask for the information again.
c) If you like being in business, don't respond to your customers on the internet telling them how much of your time they wasted.
"The amount of time I saved has been overwhelmingly counterbalanced by the writing of posts to this thread"

I change my mind back, That last statement is a little passive aggressive.


Jeremy, I you would just asked for contact info upfront, and asked the customer to send a picture of the damaged product, you could have responded the next day with an answer of:

"We are very sorry about that, we can send you RMA number, or If you would like to avoid waiting for a replacement to ship, and are comfortable replacing the panel yourself, we will mail you a new panel as soon as they are in stock.
we already have your shipping information, so please let us know which option you would like"

If it had gone that way, this thread would be about how not only are enttec splitters are affordable, but the customer service is top notch too!
 
Thanks. We're all one-off type stuff and I don't rent out to other people. I'm not crazy about having a 5-pin input, since 95% of my fixtures and controllers are all 3-pin. I wonder if they can be ordered with all 3-pin.
The D Split CAN be specified with only 5 pin or a mix of 3 and 5 but not all 3 pin.
 
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c) If you like being in business, don't respond to your customers on the internet telling them how much of your time they wasted.
"The amount of time I saved has been overwhelmingly counterbalanced by the writing of posts to this thread"

I change my mind back, That last statement is a little passive aggressive.

I think you need to use the FULL thought:
"The amount of time I saved has been overwhelmingly counterbalanced by the writing of posts to this thread, so both from a customer service perspective, and from a time management one, I feel a lesson has been learned. We'll try to do better for the next person who has an issue which requires similar handling.

This sounds like Jeremy is taking customer feedback and adjusting procedure for the better. Hats off to Entec. I wish all companies were that responsive. (Talking to YOU wireless companies!!)
 
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