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Hiding speakers on stage

Discussion in 'Sound, Music, and Intercom' started by jkowtko, May 9, 2007.

  1. jkowtko

    jkowtko Active Member

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    When fly-mounted or placed somewhere on a set, are there certain types of fabric or mesh that are commonly used to hide a speaker but let the sound through as unobstructed as possible?

    And what sort of paint would you use on the mesh/fabric so as not to further obscure the sound?

    Thanks. John
     
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    Are the speakers for the audience or are they stage monitors? And what is the theme you want for the set?
     
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    Primarily for audience -- either canned orchestra or FX speakers. This is for all productions going forward, so the theme and set design will change significantly from show to show ... I'm just interested to find out what materials and techniques work best so we can stock up on them in anticpation of building sets for the future shows.

    My current thought is to use a muslin or gauze type fabric, but I'm concerned about painting over it and closing the pores in the fabric. So if there is a good fabric/paint choice that can be used, or a metal mesh grating that can be painted over but still let good sound through, that would be my preference.

    I will also look at fly-mounting orchestra speakers in the rear of the stage, in which case I want to hide them behind an apron of fabric. What material should I use for the apron?

    Thanks. John
     
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    Depending on the set and theme it is possible to put the speakers in crates, made by the crew with an open side facing upstage, at the front of the stage. Unfortunately, i can't think of anything that would be useful to cover speakers in the set other than fabric that was already dyed a certain color.
     
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    Honestly.... it depends on how particular your audience is going to be and what fedelity you are looking for. I have done a decent number of events outside where it was just starting to sprinkle so we pulled 1mm trash bags over the speakers and kept going with minimal effect (except for dry speakers!). Look arround a store for a few minutes at home speakers, and every one of them has some type of cloth or plastic grille over the cones. I would simply try to work with what you have and try to keep things as thin as possible.
     
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    Yes, one of my last FX speakers was behind a luan panel !! -- and it still sounded okay (but obviously I want to do better than that). So I'm not looking for audiophile quality, just some advice on which fabrics work better than others, etc.

    Thanks. John
     
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    Muslin works fine, just paint it with a watered down paint. Duv also works very well.
     
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    go for cheese cloth or cut up an old scrim that too many ppl have ripped holes in because they're a bunch of cheeseheads.:grin:
     
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    Also realize that whenever you put anything in front of a speaker besides an audience, some of the sound is going to be bounce back onto the stage and has the potential to create problems. You can control this somewhat by understanding how different materials absorb/reflect different frequencies. For instance, muslin coated in paint is going to reflect much more high end onto the stage then if you were to just use muslin.
     
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    You wouldn't paint it, you'd dye it. Paint will fill the pores and render any transparent properties of the fabric null and void.
     
  11. gafftaper

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    My local theater supply place has scraps of scrim for a couple bucks a bag. That's perfect. Get white and dye it whatever color you want.

    If you can't find scrip scraps then be a man and head to the local fabric store for a little bit of tricot or other super thin stretchy material. Again buy white and dye it. Muslin will work in a pinch but there are many thinner fabric options. Go with your costumer to the fabric store or be brave and go on your own.
     

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