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Discussion in 'Scenery, Props, and Rigging' started by Hughesie, Jun 2, 2007.

  1. Hughesie

    Hughesie Well-Known Member

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    Hey the designer for a production wants to have these bits of cloth hanging from the roof that are crumbled but still hang

    they need to be six meters long

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    the material we are using is
    6x2m

    and we have tried many things and none have worked

    it needs to be pretty easy to do and sturdy
     
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    Dutchmen them. Soak them in a ton of glue, lay them out, and crumple away. Put them down on plastic so they don't stick to your floor. This will only work with a lighly woven fabric, musilin works great.
     
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    the material we are using is calaco

    soak them in glue, that's a lot of glue :(
     
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    You should water down the glue
     
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    We did this thing in my theatre, but it was with different material. I'm not sure exactly how it will work with yours. But ehre's what we did. We took the fabric, and twisted it. Then, we soaked it, twisted, in hot water, and then let it dry out twisted. Then, we unfolded it, and twisted it again, in a different direction, and soaked it again. We did that about 7 times. On the last soak, don't unfold it once it's dry. We cut off the bottom hem, and pulled the weave apart, making fringe, and cut the fringe into different lengths. Untwist the cloth, and we had an old, wrinkled, falling apart border and background. It's time consuming, but it worked for us. Hopefully, it will work for you, too.
     
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    Using diluted whie glue is one way to go , using a mixture of diluted white glue and corn starch is another. mix it all up in a #3 washtub, wring it out real well, and layout to dry in it's final shape.
     
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    i think it needs to be in a circular formation but also crinkled. the liquified glue might be the trick, but applying it will be hard

    compressor and an air gun, would that work?
     
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    Van, I'm going to be a pain and request metric please. Is white glue what we know as PVA (Poly vinyl acetate)? And such guidance on what a #3 washtub is if you could...
     
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    White school glue, the kind you used in the 3rd grade. And after looking it up, yes it is PVA, never heard it called that before.

    http://images.google.com/imgres?img...ient=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

    As for the washtub, thats an example. Basically get something big that you can easily run all the fabric through. The key is to drench the fabric. Be aware, in type of nap that the fabric naturally has will be put down by the glue.
     
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    PVA, Alaphatic resin, White glue, school glue, anything but Carpenters/wood glue < the heavy duty yellow stuff which sucks for scenic artist work>.

    #3 Washtub = You know the kind Jethro makes a washtub bass out of. Grapes of Wrath. It'd be about 2 feet in Diameter or .06096 dekameters.:mrgreen:
     
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    A #3 wash tub is a large galvanized basin large enough to boil a medium sized kangaroo or two large koalas in.
     
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    You want to know the recipe for cooking Koalas.
    You put two Koalas and a chunk of granite in a big tub and boil until the granite is soft, Then you throw away the koalas and eat the granite.
     
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    Dude combined with your signature "semi retired semi lunatic" that was the funniest thing I've heard all week.

    And you could do that all in a #3 wash tub... adding some white glue might improve the flavor of the granite.
     
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    Ok slightly moving off topic there.......
     
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    Who you are, and what's a topic??
    Get out of my house!!
    :lol:
     
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    gafftaper Senior Team Senior Team Fight Leukemia

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    Yeah the question has been answered and now we are just wasting space on the internet. These words will exist in the electronic universe like forever man... and yet I had absolutely no reason to write them. In fact, the fact that I'm about to say "Treaty of Versailles" means it's likely these words have never been put together in this order before... and to be sure these words have never been used like this before I say "Ni" to you.
     
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    ok........
     
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    Sorry Alex it was 1:30 in the morning and I needed some sleep... I think it is time to let this thread die.
     
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    Goodnight Gracie
     

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