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Discussion in 'Lighting and Electrics' started by digitaltec, Apr 3, 2008.

  1. digitaltec

    digitaltec Active Member

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    Alright Kids, I need your help...

    I am looking for a console or controller that I am able to record cues and be able to trigger programmed effects (such as a color blast sequence) off of a fader or cue stack. The budget is $400 or less.

    Pretty much i want to have a go button that will trigger the cues and effects in order.

    Would something like smart fade work?

    thanks for your help!
     
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    Yes a smart fade will work great how ever you are limated to 48 channels you might want to consider the smart fade ML that supports a lot more.

    But I have no clue how much either console costs.

    Jeffrey

    pm me if you have any other questions
     
  3. digitaltec

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    All I'm running is 5 color blasts, a fogger, and a dimmer. So thats only 18 channels.

    After review... the smartfades are running around 1k. So thats out if the question now. I am looking at Elation controllers and production bought one but it wont do cue stacks. The biggest issue I see is making everything go off a go button per say and keeping the console under $400.

    Here is exactly what im trying to achive...

    cue 1 Fade Up 5 color blasts
    cue 1.5 Auto follow
    cue 2 Flash between two colors go on fog
    cue 3 fade out all

    seems simple i know but it has to be all one one button...
     
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    I'm pretty sure that you won't get autofollow for under $400.

    How many control channels do you need?
     
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    This is pretty much wrong.....

    the SmartFade line will support a variety of channel counts (up to 96). The SmartFade ML will support 24 "devices" (fog machines, moving lights, led fixtures , etc....) and then an additional 48 dimmer channels. You cannot rob peter to pay paul - ie you cannot have only 12 devices and then have additional dimmer channels.

    Let me know if you have any more questions.. Thanks!

    Oh - and you probably aren't going to find a smartfade new for the 400 buck price that you are looking for.... a 1248 list price is 1,495.....
     
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    Thats pretty much what I have told production. Right now we are running off of a computer program like LightJockey but its not working out very well and the computers keep resetting themselves and we lose DMX from time to time and have fried a dongle or two. So they have asked me to come up with solutions. The smartfade being my first but I have been given a max of $400 per controller. Which has to be be user friendly (hence the go button) given its being ran by the carps.

    Kinda hoping there is some under the table console out there that i don't know about.
     
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    You could use some sort of DMX recorder/playback device which you can use a full console to program, but only requires a small playback unit with a GO button to trigger the whole show. Wouldn't necessarily be the same manufacturer's unit, but possibly just a DMX recorder that then plays back cues in sequence. I don't know much about these, so I don't feel qualified to make any recommendations.
     
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    I don't know much either, but Doug Fleanor (spelling?) sells something along these lines.
     
  9. avkid

    avkid Not a New User Fight Leukemia

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    It sounds like you need to do a few things first:
    Get dedicated terminals(delete all programs except IE for updates and your controller software)
    Get a power conditioner/ voltage regulator
    make sure you have your DMX lines terminated
     
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    Are you referring to a show controller?
     
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    Yeah, it's just a DMX machine. I'm not gonna go all Gilderfluke on you.
     
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    erosing The Royal Renaissance Man

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    That was exactly what I was thinking for that end of the spectrum actually. Very good products.
     
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    This was my backup plan and the one I'm going to try and push. Thanks for backing me up!


    The computer is already wiped clean with only IE and the controller software. Power is a huge issue. The entire system is ran on an inverter and four truck batteries. Adding more power to the mix is going to take me over the limit. Thats why I'm trying to eliminate the computer to try and not pound the inverter so hard. DMX is already terminated.
     
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  16. avkid

    avkid Not a New User Fight Leukemia

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    For the love of god, why?
     
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    avkid Not a New User Fight Leukemia

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    This is not adding more power, in fact it should reduce your draw.
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    It's a simple as the W = V x A formula.
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    Let's say you're at 109 volts right now and your total wattage is 1000 watts.
    1000/ 109= 9.17 Amperes
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    If you correct it to 120 volts
    100/ 120= 8.3 Amperes.
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    See where i'm going here?
     
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    computers put extremely large loads on inverters. You need to run the computer off of whatever power you are running the rest of your lights on. If you have to be mobile for some reason run it on a laptop, or generator. I strongly recommend using a battery backup inline after the generator just incase of a brown out for any reason.
     
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    TimMiller, you don't happen to know a guy in Houston that sells Elation gear that i can pick up tomorrow do you? Im currently in town and it would save on shipping and such. Thanks!
     
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    avkid Not a New User Fight Leukemia

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    You probably have a screwed up sine wave with that inverter also.
     

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