Opinions - Incandescent "Marquee" Bulbs Clear vs White?

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    I am working on a set design for Chicago which will outline key scenic elements in globe-type bulbs - approx 200. I really like Rochem's use of this in his/her design-- https://www.controlbooth.com/attachments/chic-1-jpg.4335/

    These look frosted (does this look like 8" spacing?)

    There will be a LOT of these... Any opinion on whether I should use white-frost or clear? Or will there be a significant difference from a design standpoint? Just looking for opinions here....

    If anyone has photos of these in use for set design that would be very helpful...
     
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    derekleffew Resident Curmudgeon Senior Team Premium Member

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    White is softer, and clear more glaring. Depending on the wattage, the clear may have to be run at a lower intensity than the white, which due to amber drift will change the color. Are you going to chase these also? I think either would work, but I suspect I'd choose clear for Chicago, to enhance the grittiness. That being said, I'm pretty sure the vast majority of marquee lamps on stage I've seen have been white. Outdoors, in real life, clear is much more prevalent.

    Stand under the Union Plaza's porte cochere in the winter: 40° F outside and 70° underneath.

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    I feel like you are going to get a pretty split decision.

    I like the steampunk clear look. If you can spring for the fancy lamps and the 30' rules doesn't hider view. I think it adds that authentic look of the era.
     
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    200? A lot? Count yourself lucky that you're doing Chicago and not The Producers. I actually took Producers off of my M.E. resume for a few years so that I wouldn't have to do those signs... though I do have quite a large collection of zip cord and those twist on lamp bases...

    If you go with clear then be sure to check out the filament inside the bulb. Call me picky, but the shape of the filament is sometimes my design choice. There's also lots of options for "vintage" bulbs on the market today and they're making vintage style LED A Lamps that almost look like old time gas lamps.

    and above all else... BUY EXTRA BULBS!
     
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    Did I ever tell you guys about the time I was stringing a 30-40' section of "festoons" as I call them, and accidentally dropped the free end 15' to the stage below - while they were on? Pop, pop, pop, bzzzt, pop.

    That was a long morning. Then I had to explain to the director, who had removed them from his back yard...
     
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    Thanks All!

    Great advice.

    These will be on a dimmer... I think my big conundrum is size and wattage now that I have decided on clear. I need these to read when stage is fully lit....

    Here is what I am choosing between:

    https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/63001/SIV-G405E12CL.html
    https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/2885/DEC-103060.html


    Price is the fundamental constraint here....
     
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    Since you've decided on clear, in risk of being forever mocked...
    size doesn't really matter.;)

    The clear envelope will disappear on stage. As said above, filament shape is more important. I'd go with the 5w, as I suspect the 60w would be too much.
     
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    Thanks Derek- Do you think the 5W will read as being on with a fairly bright stage? I wish I could find a confirmed image with 5W bulbs.
     
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    I don't know the wattage equivalency, but I've outlined sets with Italian lights (miniature Christmas lights) that have read just fine.
     
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    For sign bulbs, I have something of a love affair with 11 watt S14 bulbs. But like Derek said, it doesn't *really* matter.

    And my favorite is neither clear nor white, but frosted.
     

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    That Chicago sign looks like it was a straight PITA to build then put lights on. High five to the person that had to wire that all up.
     
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    You're not supposed to use insulation displacement connectors on stranded wire, are you? Unless they're specifically rated for that?
     
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