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Discussion in 'General Advice' started by Dustincoc, May 8, 2008.

  1. Dustincoc

    Dustincoc Active Member

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    Anyone notice that the longer they do this, the more they become concerned with safety. Especially right around college graduation?

    I've been thinking about safety a lot lately, which is very strange for me.
     
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    Not everyone - I was hired originally for my drama assistant position, in part, because of my safety (and rigging) training. Safety on the stage and in the shop has always been a primary concern of mine. Worked 13 years in educational theater without major injury on my watch.
     
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    I know I've become far more safety conscious than I was when I started. In fact, one of my projects right now is putting on new male Edison plugs onto cords where I busted off the ground lug a few years ago.:oops: Turns out, that grounding thing is a good idea! I got rid of all my ungrounded extension cords, I'm about to rewire a horde of PAR 64s with flaky insulation, I just went back and re-clamped some PARs that looked a little iffy...
     
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    I second that!!! I see new techs all the time that do STUPID stuff. The worst part is that it is usually the experienced people who know better who get hurt when something goes wrong. Example-- I have a scar from where the plate slipped and hit my hand while reweighting. Why was somebody not holding the plate? Because I was TRYING to show the two trainees helping me how to properly remove weights. They nearly caused disasters a few times. The best part--- they thought my hand looked cool! I got to go for now.
     
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    My dad has an engineering degree and loves to build things and tinker so I grew up around power tools and open flames. From an early age I learned about these dangerous, sharp, fast moving machines, but NEVER before receiving an appropriate safety lecture and donning proper safety gear. Safety around dangerous situations became common sense to me in the process. When I got to HS in shop classes and in our scene shop it did shock me a bit to see people so fearless of the dangers that they would ignore even the most common sense practices like safety glasses and proper lifting technique. Luckily myself and others corrected those who were deficient early on and we headed off any significant accidents. I find that people have to be reminded on how high the stakes get when activity scales up to the size of a working professional theater, when a great deal of time pressure is added.
     
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    Doesn't do you much good to lift properly after you've had a hernia. That moral is across the board for safety though; after the fact is too often too late to learn.

    The worst part is people being oblivious to reality. We were tossing out some old 360Q's and fresnels in a dumpster and one of my crew members decided to take a lens and try and smash it in the dumpster. Two or three tries later she ended up with her hand gashed, came running down the hallway gushing blood, and ended up with 13 stitches in her hand. It gets worse though; this happened only 2 minutes after I walked away having told people to stop acting like morons and stay out of the dumpster.

    Only time we've ever had to use a mop to clean up blood...
     
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    What's funny is I worry now more about other people's saftey than I do my own.
     
  8. Dustincoc

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    As do I, I'd rather get hurt than someone else, but that's not to say I like pain and injury.
     
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    I think that it goes both ways some people get more cocky and know-it-all as they progress. They feel like they have been doing this for years so they know what they are doing and they can do anything. Those are usually the people who end up doing something stupid and getting hurt.

    Then there are the people who do pay attention to safety, and it is really important. As people were saying above, hindsight is 20/20, but if you had to have a serious injury to realize you were not being smart, that is bad.

    As I am in a position where I have a lot of people who work under me, I am responsible for their safety. If I see people doing something unsafe I don't hesitate to tell them. If it is extremely unsafe you will hear me yell. I would rather it takes us extra hours to get the job done then to have to send someone to the ER.
     
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    I completely understand these sentiments and it is really encouraging to hear others share them. As I progressed through my senior year at school last year I actually took up a safety internship with the theatre department, and now I do safety and health fulltime (outside of theater unfortunately). But if it wasnt for my experience in theater and on this forum I am not sure I would have ended up where I am. So thank all of you who are engaging in safe practices and teaching it to others.
     
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    Fear is a great safety incentive, fear of pain for myself, fear of legal action for the company and fear of having a guilty conscience if I allow a student/crew person to get injured.Fear has kept me safe for 40 years.
     
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    I cringe more to the fact that these lights could have potentially been repaired! Next time, send 'em to me! ;-) I could use some Altmans to cannibalize off of.
     
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    In high school, I'd do whatever it take to get a show done, regardless of safety. It was the pride of knowing that I put in everything I had, with so few resources. The risks were what made it fun!

    Now in college, I was asked to do something last week that I thought I could do, got up like 20 feet in the lift and realized that I could do it, but it would either break something and hurt me, or freak me out more than I cared to be. So, I said no.

    That was the first time I had said No to something asked of me for a show, and it was kind of interesting, everyone understood, and we found an alternative method of doing it.
     
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    After a year of being in my high school theatre, I started watching what other people would do and some of it scared me. Things like carrying a source four up to the dimmer room by climbing up through the voms with only one hand available instead of taking the stairwell. Or not uncle buddying something because it's only a little bit out of weight.

    During my second show, I came into a build call and was painting the Little Shop sign. It was going good when I suddenly felt something really sharp hit the back of my head. Two of the new techs had been playing with a pneumatic staple gun and shot it off in my direction. Staple didn't go too far into my head, but far enough to be painful while pulling it out. When I see people playing with equipment like that, I freak out. And I tell that story to all the new technician, every semester...

    Yesterday, my master electrician and the assisstant stage manager came in buzzed... I was pissed, and I let them have it. My ME and I were supposed to hang lights on the catwalks... above actors and other people... but I ended up doing it by myself because there was no way i would let her up there. *shakes head* Needless to say that she didn't come in that way today and never will again. I wonder if this kind of thing happens anywhere else... I surely hope that this is just a high school thing. sigh...
     
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    Can't say I am familiar with the term. I am pretty sure I know what you are referring to, but care to elaborate? Or maybe share the story behind the term?

    ~Dave
     
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    Thanks!

    ~Dave
     
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    Oh, I'm sorry. This is what it looks like and we use them whenever we reweight.

    [media]http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp278/ReiRei313/100_4224.jpg[/media]

    [media]http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp278/ReiRei313/100_4223.jpg[/media]
     
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    Thanks for the pictures. I am familiar with the technique, just not the term.

    ~Dave
     
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    Oh THAT is what that thing is called!
     

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