Telex 2 channel Wired and Wireless setup suggestions

[rivlinm]

Here is the equipment I own, looking to see if anyone thinks I can run it the way I want.

1 MS-2002
1 BTR-800 Wireless Basestation
4 TR-800 Wireless beltpacks
8 BP-1002
4 BP-2002
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8 Production Intercom (PI) BP-1
1 Production Intercom (PI) Power Supply

I currently have two channels (a/b) on the BTR-800 that run into channel 2 on the wireless base station.

What is the max amount of BP I can use on the MS-2002? Is it 10 total? Is it per channel?

If I use the BP-1 packs (which are powered by their own power supply) will that count against the total of BP?

Can I run the PI packs into channel A on the ms2002, and the bp 1001 into channel B? Then my 4 BP2002 go into the dual channel xlr? And my BTR800 needs to run A and B into the A and B in the ms2002?

 

[TimMc]

Well the first thing that catches my eye: RTS/Telex/AudioCom is not :plug and play: compatible with Production Intercom (which is ClearCom compatible).

Telex/RTS uses balanced audio and tone signaling, ClearCom/Production Intercom uses unbalanced audio and DC voltage signaling. Telex makes an interface box that allows them to work together.

A reference you might find useful is the Handbook of Intercom Engineering. It's a Telex/RTS document but the design and use principles apply to all party line intercom systems.

The "Really The Fine Manual" for the MS-2002 is available online and will give you an idea of what all that box can do. IIRC the max number of passive (unpowered) devices on a channel is around 10. The connection between the BTR and MS-2002 doesn't count. You might want to download the manual for the BP 1002/2002 also, IIRC they have internal options you may find useful.

 

[rivlinm]

Thanks! The PI is currently plugged into (and working) the BTR800. Should it not be?

I've read both the btr800 and ms2002 manual multiple times, but I feel it sorta falls flat for real world applications. What I have now works, But just thought it would be a good idea to make use of the BP2002s, although I guess I could just let them continue to collect dust.

Is this the document you suggested? https://clearcom.com/downloadcenter..._Clear_Com_Analog_Digital_Partyline_Ebook.pdf

 

[Malabaristo]

I believe the wired com connections on the BTR800 are configurable for either ClearCom or RTS, so what you have now makes sense if I understand it correctly. I think you can configure the A & B sides individually, so you could potentially use the RTX stuff on one side and the PI/ClearCom compatible on the other. I don't know if there's a way to get it to merge the two channels... I also just realized my experience was with a BTR80N not the BTR800, so you'll have to do a little more reading of manuals to double-check it's the same.

 

[themuzicman]

What is the max amount of BP I can use on the MS-2002? Is it 10 total? Is it per channel?

10 per channel, 20 total if split across channels.

Well the first thing that catches my eye: RTS/Telex/AudioCom is not :plug and play: compatible with Production Intercom (which is ClearCom compatible).

All of the AudioCom products have jumpers and DIP switches you can set to force Clearcom Compatibility, unlike RTS/Telex.

As long as you reset your AudioCom stuff into ClearCom mode (all clearly defined in the manuals for both the MS-2002 and the Beltpacks) and run your BTR in Clearcom mode, you can plug and play at will. I wouldn't daisy-chain the power supplies (PI PSU and MS2-2002) together without testing first (sometimes you can introduce noise), but once everything is running a common voltage and knows which signaling schemes they are looking for to trigger call lights it'll all work just fine.

 

[TimMc]

I had to go look at the BTR800 down in the PAC basement, and YES! It has a rear panel switch for the wired ports to be Clear Com compatible.

 

[Jay Ashworth]

I believe the wired com connections on the BTR800 are configurable for either ClearCom or RTS, so what you have now makes sense if I understand it correctly. I think you can configure the A & B sides individually, so you could potentially use the RTX stuff on one side and the PI/ClearCom compatible on the other. I don't know if there's a way to get it to merge the two channels... I also just realized my experience was with a BTR80N not the BTR800, so you'll have to do a little more reading of manuals to double-check it's the same.

We have 4 channels of BTR-800 in our blackbox com rack. It's not working these days, due to deferred maintenance, but it was hooked to our 2W Clearcom, and reportedly worked fine, so I infer compatibility.