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Discussion in 'Scenery, Props, and Rigging' started by Edrick, Oct 3, 2008.

  1. Edrick

    Edrick Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Well I figured since this was off-topic this is the place. But I figured it'd be cool to show some of you who may still be in high school or in theater what it looks like from the film side.
     

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    derekleffew Resident Curmudgeon Senior Team Premium Member

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    Other than the ridiculously large lighting fixtures on stands on the floor instead of overhead where they're out of view and out of the way, it doesn't look that different from any theatre set. Moving this thread into Carpentry, in the hopes it will spark a discussion.

    Theatre vs. Hollywood flats, anyone?
     
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    Sadly this is where the schools tend to present things as "reality" when in current practice they are radically different. This is more of the perception as to what a film set looks like vs what it actually looks like

    Sharyn
     
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    The only reason why there's no hung lights is because there's nothing currently going on we were learning about Electrical Distribution. Although a lot of our lights are on stands instead of hung unless it was like a TV shoot where some could be hung Those big lights aren't actually even used in there as far as I know. As far as it not being any different than any theatre set I'd have to say it's different. There's actual rooms inside of the buildings minus one wall. It's an actual indoor street meant to resemble an older city. Although I've never been on a big time theater production so I haven't seen huge built sets these are more permeant fixtures with more attention to detail. In theater you're viewing from quite a distance away, but for film you're viewing from a few feet in terms of the camera.
     
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    They're not saying that the real industry is anything like that. The only purpose to this room is to provide an area for students to get a basic understanding of lighting and different camera work. This room is only used for one course which is Lighting in the other courses we build our own actual sets much like they do for films and TV.
     
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    There are a lot of cross-over points with Film and Theatre, and I believe if it weren't for sheer "Hard-Headedness" there could be more. I found that a lot of walls for movie sets < when ther are done in studio as opposed to On location.> tend to be built just like real stud walls only substituting 1x4 and Luan for 2x4's and Drywall. Although this does sound very wasteful at first, it starts to make sense when you find how dis-jointed things can be once the First unit gets on-set and starts hanging lights, and themselves, all over the place, the extra studs in the walls and the "swing-nail" toggles really help when climbing the back of a flat, or deciding to mount a spud in the middle of that hallway wall so you can hang a 6k par off of it.
    Attention to detail on the set and use of real vs. fake props/set pieces has really come closer together in the last twenty years. You use to be able to get away with spray-painting a cap gun silver and handing it to a mobster from Guys and Dolls. The movement of most theatre towards smaller, more intimate venues has forced Scenic and Props professionals to increase their values and attention to detail, as an audience just won't accept ,a very well scenically painted, brick wall that isn't "real". Byt the same token I think with reall attention to Story Boarding all the shots a film maker could cut thousands of dollars, if not more, from a budget by not having carps buiod a highly detailed courtroom when all the shots are going to be close-ups of sweaty people lying about who killed who.
    I appreciate seeing the shots of the Studio Space, a lot of folks on here may never get a chance to go on set and find out what a spider box is or a Lunch box for that matter. Mole-Fay? Spud? Baby Soft? I know we concentrate mostly on Theatre and Production stuff here, but it's nice to see some cinema stuff too.
     
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    Edrick Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    I'll grab some shots of Hollywood boxes, Lunch boxes, 600 / 300 Amp Distros today which is why I originally posted this in Off-Topic as this is a theater site. But I just wanted to post a single topic where people could see the other side and discuss it within a topic. I had planned to update this thread throughout time with pictures of camera equipment and sound and what not. Now that it's in carpentry...
     
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    So post your pictures in new threads in whatever category seems closest. Trust me on this. We won't mind having other threads covering film. Who knows? If you and others post about film technologies enough, it may even warrant its own category.:mrgreen:
     
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    Edrick Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Well I had mentioned to Dave on AIM if it would be possible to have a Film category a few weeks ago however he said he wanted to keep the site more for the Theater / Performing what not. As there's other sites out there for film so I didn't want to step on toes by making a bunch of new topics. I have a bunch of new photos from today I helped out on a Independent film shoot here at Full Sail.

    The first few are from Lighting Lab the outdoor shots are from the Independent Production. The Tiki Hut looking thing or whatever are the bathrooms in Lab. We used actual guns with blanks for this production I'll upload some audio in a bit.
     

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