# there goes the budget...

#### Van

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I've said it before, on eof my absolute favorite ways to mic a stage full of actors is PZMs mounted on plexi- reflectors. Hung in front of proscenium and placed on the edge of the apron. Two way to eleiminate floor noise;
first , if you have the ability mount the reflectors on mic booms and set them off the end of the stage in the pit then raise them into "focus" range. Second build wedges out of High density PolyEthylene foam < gray stuff like inside Penguin cases> Both of these have worked well for me in mic-ing both Orchestra and theatre. I'm betting you'll get a lot of good answers here though. There are a lot of hum heads who really know thier stuff.

#### dvlasak

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I'd reccomend two different options:
A - use a mix of overheads and lavs. Put the lavs on just the principal leads and use overheads to fill in the chorus.

#### SHARYNF

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I've said it before, on eof my absolute favorite ways to mic a stage full of actors is PZMs mounted on plexi- reflectors. Hung in front of proscenium and placed on the edge of the apron. Two way to eleiminate floor noise;
first , if you have the ability mount the reflectors on mic booms and set them off the end of the stage in the pit then raise them into "focus" range. Second build wedges out of High density PolyEthylene foam < gray stuff like inside Penguin cases> Both of these have worked well for me in mic-ing both Orchestra and theatre. I'm betting you'll get a lot of good answers here though. There are a lot of hum heads who really know thier stuff.

I'm with VAN with this one, pzm's on plates is very effective, gives a very natural sound, and eliminates all the issues with mic'd or not mic'd etc. and also the cone of pick up that you tend to get from hanging mics, especially for reinforcement. I think People are put off on PZM's for some reason, but I use Crown PCC 160 mics. For recording I'd use a totally different setup added to this, but, for reinforcement I'd suggest giving it a try.

Sharyn

#### tenor_singer

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Hopefully this will help. I did a couple of things to build the GV program to where it is:

1. I started an equipment swap with a good sound technician friend who owned a small studio. He would lend me his microphones for my three shows and I would lend him my system over the summer. He would clean it and rent it out to other community theaters he helped. What money he made renting my system out reimbursed him for the money he would have made if he charged me rent on his mircophones.

2. Save Save Save Save. You can do it if you dig in. The $20k you spend per show is roughly 6 times what I spend, so the money is there... you just have to be creative and make some cuts elsewhere. What I did was settle for the cheaper lighting fixtures (360Q's and PAR's) when I desperately wanted to purchase a higher quality projectors. Stretch the dollar. 3. I started a parent booster group whose sole purpose is to fundraise for capital equipment and for our scholarship fund. So far they have helped... not necessarily with microphones, but with other tech equipment... most recently was another belt pack and head set for our wireless comm. system. 4. Be patient. Things aren't gong to happen over night. I have been building GV's program from 12 students and six 8" fresnels (purchased in 1972) to what it is today for 10 years. While that may stink for the student graduating in a couple of years, it will highly benefit your younger program members. 5. My initial sound system was my foot. "Louder or I'll kick you in the pants!"... All kidding aside, this is my weird way of saying that we had no sound system to speak of and were performing in a HUGE echo chamber (gymnasium). I desperately wanted just a basic FOH system. I raised$1000.00 over the course of two years. I then begged our band and choir programs to chip in $1000.00 as well (with the promise that I would forever set up and tear down the sound system during their concerts... something that then seemed like a great idea... but now, 8 years later, is biting me in the butt ). So I had my buddy from step 1 go out and purchase me some gear. I had him do it instead of me because he would purchse gear for several area schools and get discounts because he would purchase 20 speakers instead of 2. For$3000.00 I got a sampson s1000 amp, Behringer eurodeck 24/4 mixer, Behringer feedback destroyer (because we would set up and tear down nightly during tech leaving us ZERO time for any decent EQ work and gain structure), two EV s100 speakers, 3 AT boundary mics, 3 EV hanging mics (for the choir), a 250' snake, a couple of hand held microphones and all of the connectors and cords. Long story ... long (sorry)... try to team up with another group in the building. Maybe they will split the cost for a share of the usage.

6. Even though I haven't been successful with my school program doing this, I did have good success writing grants for a community theater that I was AD for. Try writing a grant to a local foundation that is sympathetic to the arts.

Good luck! One of my favorite parts of my job has been building my program. You'll do great!

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