Curious . . What brand gel and what does it cost?

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Kelite said:
This post is not directed toward anyone in particular, but more as an FYI to all gel users.
The actual light spectrum, with visable light beginning around 350 nanometers(Ultra-Violet) and ending around 800 nanometers (Infra-Red), is the spectral wavelength professors and scientists use when placing a specific color on 'the map'. All gel manufacturers use a spectral chart to indicate the color of their gels. Each gel has a slipsheet within the swatchbook, indicating the color name, number, and the color's placement within the spectral curve.
Apollo has chosen to use the spectral numbers as our gel numbers (how simple is that?) to simplify the process. The Lavs/Violets are in the 3000 range, Blues are in the 4000 range, Greens/5000, Yellows/6000, et al.
With four digits, we have more than enough room to add transmissions between existing colors- avoiding prefix numbers and letters.
I completely understand using products which are familiar to you, and am encouraged by the growing number of Apollo Gel users at the school level as well as theater.
Now, back to our regularly scheduled program.....
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No way Keith... you guys actually thought about it and came up with a reason for the numbers! How logical and scientific of you.

I liked Derek's little history of Gel but couldn't help think that it was a little crazy how we are using numbering systems based on other numbering systems from dead manufacturers and dead technology.
 
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<couldn't help think that it was a little crazy how we are using numbering systems based on other numbering systems from dead manufacturers and dead technology.>

Our thoughts EXACTLY. :)

As young lighting designers develop and formulate their favorite palettes of color, the light spectrum can be trusted to provide accuracy. We would like to support their quest for suitable colors by being exact, rather than by taking a 'hit or miss' approach.
 
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gafftaper said:
I liked Derek's little history of Gel but couldn't help think that it was a little crazy how we are using numbering systems based on other numbering systems from dead manufacturers and dead technology.
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Kind of like advocating a system of measurement of length based on some guy's foot who died like a million years ago.:)
 
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gafftaper said:
No way Keith... you guys actually thought about it and came up with a reason for the numbers! How logical and scientific of you.
I liked Derek's little history of Gel but couldn't help think that it was a little crazy how we are using numbering systems based on other numbering systems from dead manufacturers and dead technology.
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Gaff, I fear Apollo's smart numbering process has the same forward thinking as the metric system... but I'm ready to convert! I even tried picking up an Apollo swatch book, but the philly theatre supply store (yep, we have one) doesn't have Apollo swatch books... so all I have is rosco and lee...
 
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I have an Apollo swatch book. I must say, the little blurbs on the back of each color info sheet make for some high quality reading. Seriously, those are the best, like on AP6900, Butterscotch.
 
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<the little blurbs on the back of each color info sheet make for some high quality reading.>

KC Hooper and the rest of the sales/marketing gang added theater lighting tips to the swatchbook last year. Knowing the number of high school and church drama teachers that may not have an in-depth background in technical theater or color theory could benefit from them.

Along with Perf Gel and 24 x 24 inch sheets for better yield, it's just another reason to keep Apollo in mind for your gel. We're in this for the long haul-

edit (As an aid to the drama teachers, Apollo has the first of several 'Playbooks' available to assist in a number of popular high school productions.)

http://downloads.goapollo.com/DiaryOfAnneFrank.pdf

'Our Town', 'The Crucible', and 'The Glass Menagerie' are next!
 
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Wait, Goboman wants $10 for a book? I got mine for free.....

Anway, the Goboman book is worse than the LEE, there is no order. The colors are just ordered randomly. Yes, they have numbers, but that's where it ends. I don't believe Goboman makes their gel. I think they actually have a deal with Formatt Filters in the UK. After much haggling I got Formatt to send me a swatchbook - they said they don't like to send them out because it costs them money - anyway, it was like a large version of the Goboman book. Same numbers, more colors and no order. Doubt I'll be using them.

Edit for typos.
 
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Just as a matter of interest does Apollo have a distributor in Australia yet. I am always open to new ideas and using a colour called Butterscotch appeals somehow.
 
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Logos said:
using a colour called Butterscotch appeals somehow.
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It's even better when the back of the color curve reads "Similar to AP6800 with a bit more orange. Good for deep desert sun. Subdues blue tones. Good for dim lantern of firelight. Nice for golden sunset and tasty on a sundae."


I'd like to add that I recently found a sort of "history of gel", unfortunatly its in German.
http://www.hbernstaedt.de/KnowHow/Farbfolien/folien.htm

This is bad, this thread has got me all interested in gel history now.
 
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<Yes, they have numbers, but that's where it ends. I don't believe Goboman makes their gel.>

Uh, no. It's two people working from the home garage. And all my best to them for their efforts.


The additional 'Apollo Playbills' are available for viewing or download. Feel free to send this to as many drama teachers as you see fit. Hard copies are available as well...

http://downloads.goapollo.com/OurTown.pdf

http://downloads.goapollo.com/TheCrucible.pdf

http://downloads.goapollo.com/TheGlassMenagerie.pdf
 
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Kelite said:
Uh, no. It's two people working from the home garage. And all my best to them for their efforts.[/url]
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Well, okay, I am corrected. But riddle me this, why are the Formatt and Goboman swatchbooks so similar?
 
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Well, if I were to purchase gaffer tape from a major manufacturer and needed to display a sample of the wares, the manufacturer would produce a sample tape card for my use. The assembly of the tape card with tape samples would look very similar to the original manufacturer's marketing items.

Fair enough?
 
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Fair enough.
 
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<Just as a matter of interest does Apollo have a distributor in Australia yet. I am always open to new ideas and using a colour called Butterscotch appeals somehow.
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Hi Tony,

At the moment Kenderdine in Auckland has been helping us serve the land down under. I've visited with several companies during a visit to Sydney, but no one company has the 'sole distributorship' rights to Oz.

I'm keen as mustard to get a few on board the bus though!
 
Re: Curious . . What grand gel and what does it cost?

Kelite said:
<Yes, they have numbers, but that's where it ends. I don't believe Goboman makes their gel.>
Uh, no. It's two people working from the home garage. And all my best to them for their efforts.
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I also applaud Steve and Rebel's efforts on making Goboman work. They are not (by their own admission) manufacturing gel in their garage.

--Sean
 
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