Checking out a new facility

Is that a FOH mix position in the middle of the lower section? Seems awkwardly exposed and leaving what (based on the rest of the building) would be some very nice equipment in the open or subject to being hauled around all the time.

I personally love the fact that the house gets that bright. I loathe the incredibly dim houses of every venue I've been in here.
 
Just out of curiosity, was it $7m for the auditorium and support spaces or including the adjoining field house?
Saw the plans at the Mt.Zion schools website. Pretty impressive either way. Thanks for reposting the pics.
 
Just out of curiosity, was it $7m for the auditorium and support spaces or including the adjoining field house?
Saw the plans at the Mt.Zion schools website. Pretty impressive either way. Thanks for reposting the pics.
The budget for the auditorium and stage was $7m. We believe it actually bid at a little less, but since the design and construction is combined with the field house, it is hard to say. In this case the contractor was even more reluctant than usual to offer an opinion. The fact that most school auditoriums and stages are a part of a larger project, it makes knowing what it actually cost difficult. Auditoriums and stages on a per square foot basis must be more or much more expensive than classroom or office or even gymnasiums, but very hard to know exactly how much. I think this was a bargain on any basis, with a tall stage with rigging traded off for seat count. Mt Zion is all about show choir and the competitions and festivals - and show choir does not seem very dependent on rigging.

PS - there is not much support space - much to my regret an I think others are seeing that quickly. I tried to preserve a space for a support building - a low roof addition upstage - but it will be tougher because of a large transformer and some fire sprinkler piping. Grrrr.

I sometimes hear when we present a design and it's say $8.5m or whatever. I work on a lot of high schools where the auditorium and stage seem to be in the $7 to 10m category, and in the 600 to 900 seat range - Mt Zion was an outlier in that regard), of other schools who did same for $3m. Inevitably not the same when I go look or find data - noisy rooms, squat shallow stages without wing space, poor sightlines, no or sub-minimal access to lighting and rigging, emaciated lighting, rigging, and sound systems, etc. I just tried to explain to a school and architect why I was not a good judge of "average" and "moderate" when it comes to this. I'd probably judge the average high school theatre as inadequate in many if not every regard. It would be a great research project - a survey of a large number of high school auditoriums and stages - Stage Spec sort of data - and some analysis. I still play with trying to do that. I probably should pick a smaller state than Illinois - though I have thought of dividing Illinois at I-80 and just visit all public high schools north of I-80 (considering there are just under 1200 public high schools in Illinois, and probably 2/3 or 3/4 are north of I-80, that's maybe 850 at 2.5 per day on the average, so say 1 1/2 years and a lot of miles. And 2 1/2 per day may be optimistic if I included some very basic noise and acoustic measurements. Maybe try to collect some anecdotal data on injuries and such. Still, I'd like to know.
 
Wow - those are some amazing photo-realistic renderings. I had not seen those before. Too bad they don't include a section. As I'm sure my clients get tired of hearing, in auditorium and stage planning, section first, plan later. But thanks for posting. Here is section clipped from rigging drawings:

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I think it would be a good idea to have threads like this for other facilities, great ideas and a good way to show money well spent.
A couple of questions?
>Is there an orchestra pit? the plan seems to show one?
>What is the stage floor covering, I know you like Marmoleum, or is it a painted surface?
>At the back of the hall, there seems to be a booth with two windows and a projector window, is there enough stage height to fly in a projection screen. I rather like this location vs. the frequent location above the back of the balcony.
>I haven't looked at the plans close enough, but what is the access to the two sets of catwalks, stairs, spiral stairs or ladder.
 
Arrange a tour. ;).

This has been fun, and it just never occurred to me before, but also I had allowed more time on site. Sometimes it 12+ hour days, running a lot if linesets, chasing dmx and network problems, solving Paradigm configurations. Thus one went very smoothly (aided by great work by Chicago Spotlight).

Pit option is a very long story but there is a demi-pit - same elevation as row one. Removable sections if rail for entry at foot of each aisle. 40' wide, 12' deep at centerline. Filler designed to allow an 8' or 12' us-ds dimension. They have no tradition of doing the typical spring musical.

Stage floor top surface is 3/4" plyron painted with PPG Breakthrough. I think this is our basic resilent floor sub structure - 3/4" neoprene waffle pads, 2x4 sleepers 16" OC, 1 1/8" sub-floor, and the 3/4" plyron - Robertson head screws 16" OC. (Changing to screws 24" OC on future projects.)

Yes to booth and projector. Screen is self tensioning roll up between main curtain and fire stage cloud. Trick is always above under balcony heads and below balcony structure and ceiling. Good here.

Access is spiral stair behind stageright cheekwall. A better than usual spiral in this case. 3 catwalks across stage, one over forestage, two foh (second wider for follow spots), and connector on each side fro us wall to cw 3 (furthest foh). All clear head ht. To be clear, the overstage catwalks are for lighting - the electrics - and work from both sides and mask. I'm a hawk on good technical access and circulation. Even if you don't have the gear at first, its much easier to install purchased or rental stuff. And don't make me bend over or crawl - not necessary. Does require vigilance on ducts and fire sprinklers, and sometimes not possible in renovation.
 
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There is an foh mix in house, at rear criss aisle. It is lockable (metal roll top). What's the option? The building zoning makes it not hard to secure whole auditorium and stage.

Well, something that doesn't put the console in the middle of the aisle, however being lockable is a good alternative. My experience has been that high school theater spaces are used for a very wide range of 'events'. Mine was used for Elementary Band, class meetings, testing meetings, random band practices, and an acting class throughout the day on a regular basis. As well as random speakers that one teacher or another would bring in.
 
Thinking about bright houses - until a project where the architect listened to me say that the structure, etc., above the clouds did not have to be painted black, and I showed up to see it painted white, did I have any idea I'd like it. Now this is I think this is fourth (plus a couple that are medium to dark hues) and I really like it. Nowhere near as oppressive as the blackness of many. If the stage is lit - or just curtain warmers even - and work lights (on catwalks) out - it all blends into one very light colored overhead. Not easy to believe without experiencing. Here's another recently opened project with a light or white overhead - though this is a ceiling covering ducts and structure so different. Just got this link - not too crazy about the photosphere distortions but interesting. Seating is in rows - looks morphed here - into a fourth dimension. Knoxville HS, Illinois. http://bit.ly/1IJqDgO
 
Probably not what you'd like that or shows much. Booth was still full of boxes and not really organized and like always, they forgot the chairs. (ETC should offer a chair!) I was interested in view when I took this. This is about half of the booth - a little (tiny) bit more space to right and projector is centerline. They can move console or touch screen or use app on phone or tablet (provided) at foh mix position for events where same person runs sound and lighting. I usually do 3 positions (lights, stage manager, sound) of 5 to 6' each but decided to do just two here since sound as designed to stay foh.

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I only know lighting. Ion with 2 fader wings, 2 touch screens, 3 app licenses and one device, and misc other accessories. This is a fully networked room with a lot of LEDs as well as some quartz with S4 dimmers.

I'm sure the sound system is robust and very complete, based on my experience with the designer.
 
Something of a sidebar story but according to the architects PDF timeline, the school gets the keys on Jan 1 and the school is hosting a show choir invitational on Jan 15-16. Talk about trial by fire.
 
Something of a sidebar story but according to the architects PDF timeline, the school gets the keys on Jan 1 and the school is hosting a show choir invitational on Jan 15-16. Talk about trial by fire.
No project ever finishes on schedule and very hard to get a school to accept any kind of delay or scheduled break in period. In fact, I think they have a school even or two this week and next to try it out - and the faculty are not comfortable. Its a problem. Also they are not planning on hiring a theatre specialist. My guess if other projects are any indicator they will have someone part or full time by the 2016-2017 school year start. You can't go from portable next to nothing in a gym to a full theatre - albeit no real rigging - and not expect there to be more to do; not to mention that a good space tends to bring community users out of the woodwork.
 

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