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ColorKey LED Par 64

Discussion in 'Lighting and Electrics' started by thelightguy87, Jul 1, 2008.

  1. thelightguy87

    thelightguy87 Active Member

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    I just bought 8 Color Key LED Par 64's to add to my lighting rig, I have been very pleased with them so far. Has anyone else used these? I found them in as ad on solarisnetwork.com and they came from stageoutlet.com they are 119 each and currently 99$...this is not a sales pitch, just mentioning it since i bought 4 for 119$ each and 4 for 99$ each... I could complain about the dimmer but instead i've just lowered the RGB values and gotten a much smoother fade then with the dimmer channel. They are 4 channels RGB Dimmer/strobe. Supposedly equivalent to a 300W par, haven't compared them since i dont have a 300W par, but they seem pretty bright. total wattage of the fixture is 30W with 137 total LEDS.

    So I guess I'm asking, has anyone used these lights before, are there any quirks I'm going to run into later on? Or are ya as pleased with them as I currently am after just starting to use them?
     
  2. Pie4Weebl

    Pie4Weebl Well-Known Member Fight Leukemia

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    I own six of those, the only thing I dislike is the over sensitivity of noise active mode. Also when programming them make sure you use the full intensity at 75% and not full at full so you can fade with out seeing strobes.

    Otherwise they work great!
     
  3. SHARYNF

    SHARYNF Well-Known Member

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    When I talked with Shawn he mentioned that they were very simliar to the Wiedamark's but were not as bright. So far I cannot get a reason why the brightness is different, they appear to be identical. Got a reply from Shawn looks like the use a slightly different led. The only issues I have had is as mentioned before you need to set dmx channel 4 on each to no greater than 75 percent or else when you attempt to dim with your master the mode will change to strobe. Other than that I have a dozen or so of the wiedamarks.
    Sharyn
     
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    len Well-Known Member

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    I have 24 of them. They do fine for my uses, which is mostly to light small stages when there's no power, and uplight around weddings and things.
     
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    Exactly the same strobing fade problem with my Wiedamark PAR 64's. I reset my scenes with Channel 4 at about 75% of full-on (I think the value was about 100) and now the fades are smooth.

    Searching for a solution to this problem was my first encounter with this discussion group. Thank you - awesome resource!
     
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    Esoteric Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I am an authorized reseller of both Wiedamarks and Color Keys. The Wiedamarks are brighter and more even, but they are both great units.

    Mike
     
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    I own 40 of them. Just love the units.
    got them all out on a gig tonight for a dinner.

    [​IMG]


    Ken Pogin
    Production / Tour Manager
    Minnesota Ballet
     
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    BillESC Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    How many Colorkey 64's would it take to do this?

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    Esoteric Well-Known Member

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    Probably 4 Wiedamark without the nasty spill all over the lawn. Maybe 6 of the Color Keys.

    Mike
     
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    BillESC Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    I don't believe the OP was talking about the 1w version but rather the 10mm Colorkey LED 64 considering the price. I think it would take a lot more IMHO.
     
  11. MNBallet

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    yes, he was refering to the 10mm kind, not the 1 watt versions. And to correct the record, he said they had 137 leds, the correct number is 183.

    Plus, there is a big price difference in units and the colorkeys from stage outlet really are the cheapest for a par 64 10mm led unit that I've found so far. In your pic, as nice as it is....you can adjust the camera settings so that even 1 colorkey will look like that if you leave the shutter open long enough. that's why side by side shootouts are so important, or lux readings. I do love looking at pics of products I might want to buy though, and thanks for posting the new stuff comming out on the market.

    I own some 3 watt led pars and they just totally blow the colorkeys out of the water, but I still like and use the colorkeys.
     
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    I bought a couple of the colorkeys to try them out a while ago. I like them alot and right now they are in a rig as truss warmers.
     
  13. Esoteric

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    I was talking about the Wiedamark 10mm LED units (252 LEDs each), and the Color Key LEDs.

    Mike
     
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    BillESC Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    It's a shame Wiedamark doesn't offer any photometric data on their fixtures.
     
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    Esoteric Well-Known Member

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    I have it.

    Mike
     
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    BillESC Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Please post it.
     
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    Esoteric Well-Known Member

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    Here you go.

    Mike
     
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    derekleffew Resident Curmudgeon Senior Team Premium Member

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    I have read that before. I do not use photometrics as the end all be all of lighting measurements. But Bill asked for them (in a rather ominous way, perhaps pointing out that they were hiding something) so I supplied them.

    These units do the job and are great units for the right job. Great punch, and when they aren't competeing with other lights (such as the outside of a house at night) can provide great punch even at a distance.

    It is all about the right unit for the right job.

    Mike
     
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    Thanks for the post Mike. It indicated 352 Lux at 2 meters. The LED420B outputs 4100 Lux at 2 meters.

    Derek, I'll go read that article now, thanks for posting it.
     

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