That could have been cool, they could have featured the inclusion of marsala* emitters for those lush, warm tones.Altman should have made a data sheet for a 360L for April 1st
As I've said before, I entered lighting in the mid/late seventies, and don't think I'd even heard of Altman until the mid eighties.
Even today, look at the "modern" 360Q pictured. The only place it says Altman is (probably) on the T-handles, and (probably) on a yoke sticker.It seems to me Altman wasn't concerned about its identity as a brand until at least the 1980s/90s. Many other companies (including Colortran and ETC) sold its fixtures under their own name. Thus many could have or are/were using Hub fixtures thinking they are Altman. Or anything generic/un-marked is likely Altman, but as you've discovered might be something else: Little Stage Lighting Company, Capitol Stage Lighting Co., L&E, LECO, and so on.
From testing a S4 Fresnel against an ancient Colortran 213-202 6" Fresnel, I'm not sure it's really much of an improvement. The S4 is amazingly heavy, the quarter-turn fasteners that secure the gel clip are a pain, removing the lamp socket assembly from the body to change a lamp would be a lot of fun on a ladder, etc. etc. etc. I'll take the 65Q. My all-time favorite is the Electro-Controls 6" fresnel.
We have City Theatrical Barndoors permanently in our S4 Fresnels, so gels go into the barn door. Since there is NO WAY the barn door can come out, safeties are not always necessary on the barn door which is nice. Since the gel clip is never usually opened then the quarter-turn fasteners are just fine. Changing lamps is easy I find. All in all I don't mind the s4 Fresnel at all.
I agree I do like the old EC 6" Fresnels, and the Colortran fresnels in a lot of ways better. The Colortrans are nice to focus, the s4 focus beam adjust I don't like as much, same as the s4 zoom.
The Altmans were the fixture of choice on a budget a lot of the time, and still are.
I think we will be seeing the 360Q for a VERY long time. Look at how many Strand PATT fixtures (fixtures the 360Q was meant to replace!), and the like are still in service out there! I still get my hands on them unfortunately.
Then again no surprise the 360Q is discontinued. I wonder how many they were selling? Especially with groups selling used 360Qs cheap.
We have City Theatrical Barndoors permanently in our S4 Fresnels, so gels go into the barn door. Since there is NO WAY the barn door can come out, safeties are not always necessary on the barn door which is nice. Since the gel clip is never usually opened then the quarter-turn fasteners are just fine. Changing lamps is easy I find. All in all I don't mind the s4 Fresnel at all.
I agree I do like the old EC 6" Fresnels, and the Colortran fresnels in a lot of ways better. The Colortrans are nice to focus, the s4 focus beam adjust I don't like as much, same as the s4 zoom.
The Altmans were the fixture of choice on a budget a lot of the time, and still are.
I think we will be seeing the 360Q for a VERY long time. Look at how many Strand PATT fixtures (fixtures the 360Q was meant to replace!), and the like are still in service out there! I still get my hands on them unfortunately.
Then again no surprise the 360Q is discontinued. I wonder how many they were selling? Especially with groups selling used 360Qs cheap.
The secret to the no-gel-clip conundrum is to take a binder clip and snap it onto the gel frame on the edge of the frame opposite the side without the gel clip. By doing this after you've got the gel frame inserted into the slot, the binder clip prevents the frame from being able to fall out of the slot.
Mini S-4 Leko is not a great impressive thing for output, as with the JR' especially if you have a bad lamp in needing to take apart the fixture to get at. Was thinking all above the same on the 3.5Q especially once listed as E-12 mini-cand, but you can still get the G-9.5 and surprised they didn't re-list for GLA series lamp.
Parts for the 360Q/360 series you should still be able to get for a few years and they might extend that with demand. Altman is really good in years later still having parts. if not parts available, CB memters and others have stockpiles of parts and I'm even R&D with punch tools doing shutter handle fiber washers. Parts for these lights are a long time from being not able to get.
It's time in while this for years was the best brand of economic fixtures "my kindom for another Leko"! The fixture I dreamed of having even one of, or if I had them I could have done better. I finally own one now which isn't associated with the museum - took me 20 years, but I own a 6x9, the light I always wanted as opposed to a sports car in mid-life.
...And the perhaps original Philips GLA removable heat sink back to the market. In making a HPL lamp that has ability to go either G-9.5 or G-9.5HS (heat sink). That is possible for lamp now as opposed to liquid filled which is a xenon concept.
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