I made my life easy, when I needed a couple extras for a school I just spoke to my dealer who was doing the install and I got one of Lee and one for Rosco right away. My real problem is with Apollo. If anybody else here gets the REQUEST PRODUCT INFORMATION emails from Stage Directions, PLSN, or FOH, you know that they give you an entire list of manufactures and companies that you can check off, and then they'll send you a bunch of info on that. Well I've done Apollo a few times, between their gels, gobos, gobo rotators, color scrollers, etc, but I quickly found out that they will never send specific info on a product, only the same catalog, swatch book, and gel-slide converter. Now I've got 2-3 spare Apollo books and catalogs, which I think I've been able to give them all away, but I might still have some extra stuff sitting around here still.