# wish lists time of the year

#### Chaos is Born

##### Active Member
Ok, so its the time of year when we need to put in our equipment needs, wants, and fantasy wants...

i'm fairly good on what we need but what gadgets do you think are a decent thing to put on the "wants" list?

Automated lights aren't out of the question, but not a large amount of them. We are well stocked enough on lights and some extra barrels for our fixtures are already on the list.

#### Sean

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Ok, so its the time of year when we need to put in our equipment needs, wants, and fantasy wants...
i'm fairly good on what we need but what gadgets do you think are a decent thing to put on the "wants" list?
Automated lights aren't out of the question, but not a large amount of them. We are well stocked enough on lights and some extra barrels for our fixtures are already on the list.
I think you need to give us a bit more context before you'll get much in the way of useful responses to this question.

For example, this year I asked for money for:

30 lekos
~20 multicables
2 1-ton chain motors w/control cables, etc and roadbox
More feeder cable

Though this list would be useful for me, it might not prove that useful to you.

--Sean

#### gafftaper

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Agreeing with Sean...

First priority: How are you set for infrastructure issues? Do you have good lighting positions, more dimmers, better console, has your rigging system been inspected in the last 5 years and if no one in the building can remember when the ropes were last replaced they are unsafe and should be replaced before they fail and kill someone. (Let me hear an Amen from brother WhatRigger?)

Second, give us an idea of what is in your basic lighting inventory. Do you ever run out of lights and wish you had a couple more for a special? What are your shows like? Do you just try to wash the stage with a couple specials or do you have multiple color washes that change?

What is already in your "toy collection" (scrollers, I-cues, I-pro, rotators, fogger... etc).

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#### Chaos is Born

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Ok, in addition to the whole console thing, we already have 15 or so nodes placed around the theatre where ever you would want to plug something dmx in. All built into the architecture. So nodes arn't an issue. I forgot to include those into the index of basic idea of what we have.

So far this has been really helpful, since i don't get to be informed of how much our budget is... since i'm not in a position to know. I am just in a position to help my boss figure out what we should be looking at for the theatre and he makes the decisions on what we request, he just wants to make sure he isn't leaving anything out.

#### gafftaper

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The other point about getting a new console is that while the old console will do moving lights it isn't nearly as user friendly as one of the new ones would be. That means saving money on programing time. If you seriously go into movers a couple at a time in the future you'll be really glad to have a more mover friendly console. I don't know if EOS/ION has it but Congo's effects generator is really cool. It can create all kinds of simple moving light tricks almost instantly making quick reprogramming a breeze for you.

#### ship

##### Senior Team Emeritus
A cattle prod to inspire my crew & Larger work area.

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#### What Rigger?

##### I'm so fly....I Neverland.
Hey Gaff:

AMEN!

Indeed, get your rigging inspected annually. Yep, I said annually. It's just the best way to go. But within the last 5 years is good/common, too. You'd be suprised how much nicer life is after your system gets a 'tune up'.

#### Footer

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A cattle prod to inspire my crew & Larger work area.
There is always the DMX shock collar.

You might also want to throw 2 to 4 chain motors on that list. Never know when you might want to hang a truss US/DS in the wings or hang a truss out in the house. Or... you have that piece that it is impractical to get it off the deck even with multiple bull lines and all that good stuff.

#### icewolf08

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The other point about getting a new console is that while the old console will do moving lights it isn't nearly as user friendly as one of the new ones would be. That means saving money on programing time. If you seriously go into movers a couple at a time in the future you'll be really glad to have a more mover friendly console. I don't know if EOS/ION has it but Congo's effects generator is really cool. It can create all kinds of simple moving light tricks almost instantly making quick reprogramming a breeze for you.
Strand consoles, including the 300 series have a pretty good set of built in effects for intelligent lighting. You just have to tell it to patch the shape channels when you patch the fixtures and then you have direct access to pre-programmed ideas like circles, squares, triangles, etc. I have not worked directly with Congo, but before the Congo, EOS and ION, Strand, IMO had a much better ML package than ETC.

If you are using a strand 300 now, you are probably in the target market for the ION. On the other hand, if you don't want to deal with the strand to ETC infrastructure change, the Strand Palette series may be worth looking into. I suppose the real question I have in terms of infrastructure, is are your DMX drops just drops or are they nodes like the SN110 or SN103? Because if they are just drops it is real easy to upgrade.

I was able to get a lot of things that were on my wish list last season. I did get a couple big toys, MLs. We use them on a regular basis. But I would still love to have smaller things like SEAChangers which I didn't get last year. And chances are, given what we spent on lighting last season, I won't get much more than my budget this season, so I save every penny I can and buy whatever I can at the end of the year. I suppose the point of that little story is that sometimes the big things are nice, but the small stuff would be great.

#### Chaos is Born

##### Active Member
are they nodes like the SN110 or SN103?
They are actual nodes built into the walls.

#### Chaos is Born

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Ok, After checking the stock of what we have in our theatre and realizing that it is in fact not our Apollo Scrollers that are out on repair, but our Wybron Scrollers that are out on repair, i would like to apologize for the mix-up and clarify that we haven't had any problems with our apollo scrollers since we have had them.

#### Kelite

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<should have 10 scrollers (6 are out on repair for the last 5-6 months)>

Wow Chaos, that seems like a REALLY long time. When scrollers get sick or get dropped off the truss, we diagnose/repair and return them in a few days.

This reminds me of the Grinch, when confronted by Cindy Ly Who, stating "There's a light on this tree that won't light on one side. So I'm taking it home to my work shop, my dear. I'll fix it up there, then I'll bring it back here. "

Yeah right.

Where exactly are these color scrollers?

#### gafftaper

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Hey Keith did you see the message Chaos posted presumably while you were writing your message? It's all Wybron gear, not Apollo.