Two points; first, what the Chauvet PM said was the only thing he could say, think about it. Second, if you read carefully you would have seen the speculation on my part is that this is the root fixture, a very similar fixture in almost every way that I then presumed was what they started with and entered an OEM or ODM (likely an ODM deal) to have it produced.
Jack
If you're confused that's fine but do you think other people can't figure things out on their own? I don't think I caused confusion in the slightest, you followed it right?
Asking him to phrase it in a way that couldn't be misintepreted is something I learned from years of subtle word play, sadly it matters and in the end he had no problem clarifying for me. Sorry you are so certain of everything in life and know every Chinese product is a scam, must be good to be so certain about things...
Jack
Jack,
The Senior Product Manager from Chauvet came on this board and told you that you are wrong. I assume you must think he is lying.
I agree that companies buy fixtures from other companies on a regular basis. However those deals always include a provision that prevents them from selling them in the same market, under the threat of heavy monetary penalty. Plus obviously losing that business partner.
I am sure that chauvet has sold many more of that fixture than MS lighting has. If Chauvet caught an OEM selling one of their fixtures rebranded, there is 0% chance they ever would use them again for another fixture. That is a much larger loss of sales than they ever could bring in selling the same fixture on the side.
There would be no benefit for any OEM manufacturer selling the same product for cheaper in the same market as the company buying the OEM product.
Once again, IT MAKES NO SENSE for a OEM to sell to the same market that their client is selling to.
You are blatantly wrong and made an poor ethical choice and are now trying justify it.
Good luck with that and your knock off fixtures.
...I didn't mean to start a big argument here.
...why come to a place full of people with similar interests if we all think the same, what would anyone learn? Jack
there is a cool vibe you get when working on a 'Live' show.
As most of you lucky people know, there is a cool vibe you get when working on a 'Live' show.
I just purchased 4 x 60W LED Moving Heads, they appear to be the Q-Spot 260 LED but calling them "generic" IMO is unfair as they are in-fact the real thing. I sometimes am surprised folks assume the Chinese can't do something without guidance or someone else's know how, clearly these were designed and built in China and Chauvet just rebrands them for resale. Now having the manual in front of me, it's very clear the products are identical, same design, same dimensions, same features, same DMX channels, same firmware menus and options, you get the point. The main difference is the cost, $420 each (order of 4 units) including shipping from China, that's a big difference...
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