Oh and we used to have new people plug in an instrument and when it didn't work (no power), we would tell them to lick the male stage pin, maybe it wasn't making contact. Of course they licked it and plugged it in and it worked (because we turned the circuit on).
three times in one year we got him. it just stopped being fun after a while.
Yep, and here it has led to the cancellation of all band programs in one metro county's schools after two graduates of one of their high schools were injured, one fatally, in recent collegiate band hazing incidences with other graduates among the suspects in those incidences. Apparently all band activities are cancelled until the County School Board can review the band programs and assess if hazing takes place or is promoted as acceptable practice.Most every place has some sort of light teasing/hazing if you want to call it that going on with the new people.
Yep, and here it has led to the cancellation of all band programs in one metro county's schools after two graduates of one of their high schools were injured, one fatally, in recent collegiate band hazing incidences with other graduates among the suspects in those incidences. Apparently all band activities are cancelled until the County School Board can review the band programs and assess if hazing takes place or is promoted as acceptable practice.
The issue seems to be that even if you know the limits of what may be acceptable, that may not be true of everyone and some may view acceptance of any form of hazing as any hazing being accepted. If someone else takes it too far, acceptance of lesser incidences can be seen as contributing to that. Just something to think about.
Yep, and here it has led to the cancellation of all band programs in one metro county's schools after two graduates of one of their high schools were injured, one fatally, in recent collegiate band hazing incidences with other graduates among the suspects in those incidences. Apparently all band activities are cancelled until the County School Board can review the band programs and assess if hazing takes place or is promoted as acceptable practice.
The issue seems to be that even if you know the limits of what may be acceptable, that may not be true of everyone and some may view acceptance of any form of hazing as any hazing being accepted. If someone else takes it too far, acceptance of lesser incidences can be seen as contributing to that. Just something to think about.
I think there is a big difference between hazing and joking with somebody. Hazing is designed to humiliate or even cause physical discomfort to a person. This is a problem because it has an escalation property to it where irresponsible people will take it to a point where injuries and even deaths result. Look at the idiots at Florida.
Joking a noob is a practice that does two things, shows a guy how much he has to learn or helps bring a guy into the group. The former types of jokes are usually played on somebody that thinks they know way more than they do and needs to be shown they have more to learn. The latter is done to somebody that shows promise and you just want to play with so he feels more comfortable.
I agree that you have to be careful who you joke with but some people tend to be too sensitive about things sometimes. Hazing should be banned.
I think there is a big difference between hazing and joking with somebody. Hazing is designed to humiliate or even cause physical discomfort to a person. This is a problem because it has an escalation property to it where irresponsible people will take it to a point where injuries and even deaths result. Look at the idiots at Florida.
Joking a noob is a practice that does two things, shows a guy how much he has to learn or helps bring a guy into the group. The former types of jokes are usually played on somebody that thinks they know way more than they do and needs to be shown they have more to learn. The latter is done to somebody that shows promise and you just want to play with so he feels more comfortable.
I agree that you have to be careful who you joke with but some people tend to be too sensitive about things sometimes. Hazing should be banned.
I get what you are trying to say and in the case of someone who thinks they know more than they do there is a purpose to it. However, while I used to think that things like sending people looking for non-existent items was harmless and helped build relationships, as I get older I wonder more and more what type of relationships you actually create when they start with deception and abusing people's trust. It's an approach that needs to be applied carefully.I think there is a big difference between hazing and joking with somebody. Hazing is designed to humiliate or even cause physical discomfort to a person. This is a problem because it has an escalation property to it where irresponsible people will take it to a point where injuries and even deaths result. Look at the idiots at Florida.
Joking a noob is a practice that does two things, shows a guy how much he has to learn or helps bring a guy into the group. The former types of jokes are usually played on somebody that thinks they know way more than they do and needs to be shown they have more to learn. The latter is done to somebody that shows promise and you just want to play with so he feels more comfortable.
I agree that you have to be careful who you joke with but some people tend to be too sensitive about things sometimes. Hazing should be banned.
I get what you are trying to say and in the case of someone who thinks they know more than they do there is a purpose to it. However, while I used to think that things like sending people looking for non-existent items was harmless and helped build relationships, as I get older I wonder more and more what type of relationships you actually create when they start with deception and abusing people's trust. It's an approach that needs to be applied carefully.
A bit off the direct topic, but one of my past employers once held a team building event. A day of the entire company together, no barriers, etc. However, the mandatory event was held on a weekend, apparently no one considered that this meant that salaried and commissioned employees received no compensation for attending the it while hourly employees were paid overtime. Because of that the 'team building' event actually created greater division in the company. Based on that and other experiences, I have found that activities planned specifically to build teams can end up creating greater division.
2 things:
1 - I doubt most people will really consider it an abuse of trust to have someone ask them to go get a board stretcher. Especially when everyone laughs, and then buys the dude a beer that night for being a good sport.
2 - No one likes team building events but managers, who get to say they did something to build the team. You could pay everyone triple overtime, and they would not enjoy their experience.
What are some creative ways that you guys have tortured your knowledge-lacking light crew noobs? I'm out of ideas and we have a couple of lighting crew noobs coming in this semester. One year we told them that all the gels needed to be washed. Another year we told them to go find us a cord strecher in the shop. Any other ideas?
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